One problem is that the Russians won't know whether they are nukes or not until they explode.  I wonder how good our back channels are with the Russian military.  I doubt that they are very happy with Putin.  The Ukranians seem very willing to fight and I'd bet they will be a lot more motivated than a bunch of Russian conscripts.  So I think if we keep them supplied they may make it too expensive in money, blood, and prestige.

More worrying it what will we do when Xi starts massing troops on the mainland opposite Taiwan?  We're not in so good a position to impose economic pressure on China.

Brent

On 2/26/2022 3:13 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 10:04 AM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

    It's not a question of sympathy, but of utility.


What would happen if NATO launched an all-out cruise missile assault on Moscow and Petersburg? Not nuclear, purely conventional. No "boots on the ground", but some serious rethinking needed on Russia's part. Just as the retaliatory British bombing of Berlin in WW2 caused Hitler to loose his cool and gave Britain an advantage. Of course, Putin might respond with a nuclear assault, but that would certainly render his empire plans futile. It would be a gamble, but I think the odds would be in favour of making Putin pause rather than escalating further.

Bruce


    Brent

    On 2/26/2022 2:58 PM, John Clark wrote:
    On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 5:41 PM Brent Meeker
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        /> I'm fine with seizing the money of Putin and his oligarch
        buddies.  I'm less sanguine about just impoverishing the
        Russian people. /


    When one country decides to make war on it's neighbormisery is
    the inevitable result,certainly the people of Ukraine are feeling
    it and I'm certain the people of Russia will too. Call me a
    monster if you want but at this moment I feel far less sympathy
    for the invading country than the country being invaded.

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