On 2/28/2022 6:52 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 3:59 PM Tomas Pales <litewav...@gmail.com> wrote:
/> A world without me is possible (logically consistent)/
I would certainly agree with that, but the tiny minority of physicist
who believe in Superdeterminism, such as Sabine Hossenfelder, would
not; they think the universe could only have started out in one very
very specific way, a way that required it to produce you 13.8 billion
years later because if it did not a paradoxical logical inconsistency
would have been produced. Personally I think that idea is nuts
because I simply can't imagine a more egregious violation of Occam's
razor than Superdeterminism.
Sabine seems to argue against free will as the source of statistical
independence...which might be true. But the most rigorous tests of
Bell's theorem, as by Alain Aspect, used photons from opposite
directions in the universe to set the polarizations. To say those were
not statistically independent is what I take to be the idea of
superdeterminism. I don't see that it has anything to do with Occam's
razor. It just says the universe is deterministic (as Laplace thought)
and it started in some one definite state and nothing random ever
happened. I don't buy it...I'm not even sure it's operationally
distinct from good old quantum randomness. But then I don't buy MWI either.
Brent
I believe in every interpretation of quantum mechanics to the extent it
points out the problem, and disbelieve in every interpretation to the
extent it claims to have solved it.
--- Peter Shor
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