On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:44:09 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

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> On 4/16/2022 8:34 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> Of course I favour the first version of the argument, using the many-world 
>> formulation of collapse, to avoid the "God plays dice" nightmare.
>>
>>
>> Why this fear of true randomness?  We have all kinds of classical 
>> randomness we just attributed to "historical accident".  Would it really 
>> make any difference it were due to inherent quantum randomness?  Albrect 
>> and Phillips have made an argument that there is quantum randomness even 
>> nominally classical dynamics. https://arxiv.org/abs/1212.0953v3
>>
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> True randomness implies *unintelligibility*; that is, no existing 
> physical process for *causing *the results of measurements. AG 
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> "It happened at random in accordance with a Poisson process with rate 
> parameter 0.123" seems perfectly intelligible to me.  There is a physical 
> description of the system with allows you to predict that, including the 
> value of the rate parameter.  It only differs from deterministic physics in 
> that it doesn't say when the event happens. 
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> I always wonder if people who have this dogmatic rejection of randomness 
> understand that quantum randomness is very narrow.  Planck's constant is 
> very small and it introduces randomness, but with a definite distribution 
> and on certain variables.  It's not "anything can happen" as it seems some 
> people fear.
>
> Brent
>

Every single trial is unintelligible. AG

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