On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:36 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote: > On 11-05-2022 07:42, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > That's complete and audacious question begging. What you mean by > > "real" is "modeled within the SE". There is NOTHING BUT collapse > > experimentally; every result recorded in every notebook and every tape > > is evidence of a collapse. > > > > There is effective collapse in experiments we do, but the experiments > nevertheless demonstrate that the fundamental processes proceed under > unitary time evolution. >
All that the experiments demonstrate is that the wave function evolves unitarily between state preparation and measurement. This is most easily accounted for by assuming that the wave function is a purely epistemic vehicle for the time evolution of probabilities. Since it is purely epistemic, collapse is not a problem since it is not a physical event. One does not have to go the whole way to QBism -- the wave function can still be objective (inter-subjectively agreed). Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLSf3z54_UNEvZBRsazzYFPWPx-GaBq3xY8UyDZATsArCQ%40mail.gmail.com.