On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:36 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:

> On 11-05-2022 07:42, Brent Meeker wrote:
> >
> > That's complete and audacious question begging.  What you mean by
> > "real" is "modeled within the SE".  There is NOTHING BUT collapse
> > experimentally; every result recorded in every notebook and every tape
> > is evidence of a collapse.
> >
>
> There is effective collapse in experiments we do, but the experiments
> nevertheless demonstrate that the fundamental processes proceed under
> unitary time evolution.
>

All that the experiments demonstrate is that the wave function evolves
unitarily between state preparation and measurement. This is most easily
accounted for by assuming that the wave function is a purely epistemic
vehicle for the time evolution of probabilities. Since it is purely
epistemic, collapse is not a problem since it is not a physical event. One
does not have to go the whole way to QBism -- the wave function can still
be objective (inter-subjectively agreed).

Bruce

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