By "valid", I mean "true". IOW, is SR limited to non-accelerating frames? If the frames are accelerating, will the LT still hold for relating the laws of physics between those frames? AG On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 9:58:27 PM UTC-7 jessem wrote:
> It depends what you mean by "valid". Certainly all the physical laws of > relativity such as time dilation can be expressed in a non-inertial > coordinate system, like Rindler coordinates. But the equations expressing > these laws will not be the same in non-inertial coordinate systems, for > example you can no longer assume that a clock moving at constant coordinate > velocity for a coordinate time interval of delta-t will elapse a proper > time of delta-tau = delta-t * sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2). > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:50 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Wormholes have nothing to do with my question. Please answer the question >> defining this thread. TY. >> >> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:00:50 PM UTC-7 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> A stable wormhole requires threading by negative energy density. Since >>> no such negative energy field is know and it's existence would imperil the >>> stability of matter, its existence seems highly unlikely. >>> >>> Brent >>> >>> >>> On 11/15/2022 11:17 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >>> >>> Me: Forget acronyms, or even Einstein's gravitic Reference Frame >>> dragging (His movie reel analogy), Instead ask yourselves are these >>> physicists correct in proposing that some black holes are wormholes? >>> >>> Objects We Thought Were Black Holes May Actually Be Wormholes, >>> Scientists Say (futurism.com) >>> <https://futurism.com/objects-black-holes-wormholes> >>> >>> For this science fiction boy, I say interesting and maybe, hopeful? Let >>> the hard science Bohr flavor of quantum mechanics and relativity yield for >>> in objection, how this is fictional, improbable, and crapola? For >>> reference frames, I know Einstein locked this in with time, which he >>> discussed with Michele Besso (remember the letter to Beso's family?) but >>> otherwise, how valuable to astronomers and physicists is ref frame dragging >>> and all that? Does it predict do you think? >>> >>> The validity of a science is its ability to predict-Vanevar Bush. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>> To: Everything List <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2022 1:30 pm >>> Subject: Re: Is Special Relativity valid for accelerating frames of >>> reference? TY. >>> >>> RA. >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 6:19:02 AM UTC-7 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 6:38 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> *> IHA = ?* >>> >>> >>> I Hate Acronyms. >>> >>> John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis >>> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> >>> 8gfk >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a67cbbac-69e0-40a9-8ee2-8e0caeb344d5n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a67cbbac-69e0-40a9-8ee2-8e0caeb344d5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> >>> . >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2142008288.338975.1668539879975%40mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2142008288.338975.1668539879975%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/527ac7d6-ada8-422f-b93f-df5b974da65fn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/527ac7d6-ada8-422f-b93f-df5b974da65fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ad37482d-960e-4223-8113-81838c19bd60n%40googlegroups.com.
