Specifically, will the time dilation of a clock in an accelerating frame, be the same as a clock as measured for a clock in a the observer's accelerating frame, where v in the LT is the instantaneous velocity of the clock in the observer's frame at every time t in the observer's frame?
On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 10:54:06 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > By "valid", I mean "true". IOW, is SR limited to non-accelerating frames? > If the frames are accelerating, will the LT still hold for relating the > laws of physics between those frames? AG > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 9:58:27 PM UTC-7 jessem wrote: > >> It depends what you mean by "valid". Certainly all the physical laws of >> relativity such as time dilation can be expressed in a non-inertial >> coordinate system, like Rindler coordinates. But the equations expressing >> these laws will not be the same in non-inertial coordinate systems, for >> example you can no longer assume that a clock moving at constant coordinate >> velocity for a coordinate time interval of delta-t will elapse a proper >> time of delta-tau = delta-t * sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2). >> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:50 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Wormholes have nothing to do with my question. Please answer the >>> question defining this thread. TY. >>> >>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:00:50 PM UTC-7 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A stable wormhole requires threading by negative energy density. Since >>>> no such negative energy field is know and it's existence would imperil the >>>> stability of matter, its existence seems highly unlikely. >>>> >>>> Brent >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/15/2022 11:17 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >>>> >>>> Me: Forget acronyms, or even Einstein's gravitic Reference Frame >>>> dragging (His movie reel analogy), Instead ask yourselves are these >>>> physicists correct in proposing that some black holes are wormholes? >>>> >>>> Objects We Thought Were Black Holes May Actually Be Wormholes, >>>> Scientists Say (futurism.com) >>>> <https://futurism.com/objects-black-holes-wormholes> >>>> >>>> For this science fiction boy, I say interesting and maybe, hopeful? Let >>>> the hard science Bohr flavor of quantum mechanics and relativity yield for >>>> in objection, how this is fictional, improbable, and crapola? For >>>> reference frames, I know Einstein locked this in with time, which he >>>> discussed with Michele Besso (remember the letter to Beso's family?) but >>>> otherwise, how valuable to astronomers and physicists is ref frame >>>> dragging >>>> and all that? Does it predict do you think? >>>> >>>> The validity of a science is its ability to predict-Vanevar Bush. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>>> To: Everything List <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2022 1:30 pm >>>> Subject: Re: Is Special Relativity valid for accelerating frames of >>>> reference? TY. >>>> >>>> RA. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 6:19:02 AM UTC-7 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 6:38 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> *> IHA = ?* >>>> >>>> >>>> I Hate Acronyms. >>>> >>>> John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis >>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> >>>> 8gfk >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a67cbbac-69e0-40a9-8ee2-8e0caeb344d5n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a67cbbac-69e0-40a9-8ee2-8e0caeb344d5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> >>>> . >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2142008288.338975.1668539879975%40mail.yahoo.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2142008288.338975.1668539879975%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/527ac7d6-ada8-422f-b93f-df5b974da65fn%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/527ac7d6-ada8-422f-b93f-df5b974da65fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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