On 7/9/2024 1:56 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 4:29 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

    //
    />So you wrote a whole paragraph but it's unclear whether you are
    agreeing with me that consciousness is NOT just some mysterious
    byproduct of intelligence,/


Consciousness is not mysterious, unless you think a brute fact is mysterious, but there are only two ways an iterative sequence of "how" or "why" questions can go, it can either terminate with a brute fact or it goes on forever. I think an iterated sequence of questions going on forever is far more mysterious than a brute fact. And I think it's a brute fact that consciousness is the way data feels when it is being processed.

    />but is an essential source of intelligent actions because it
    provides plans and evaluates planned actions and scenarios.
    /


You've got cause-and-effect mixed up.Consciousness is not a source of intelligent action, consciousness is an inevitableconsequence of intelligence.

Most intelligent action is preceded by conscious planning.

Brent

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