On Sunday, October 6, 2024 at 1:39:12 PM UTC-6 Cosmin Visan wrote:
@Alan. You didn't understand anything from the Bell's inequalities. Bell's inequalities say that is impossible for the system to have any definite state before measurement. *If you had stopped here, above, you would have stated the situation accurately. Bell experiments falsified Einstein Realism, that a measurement reveals some pre-existing observable. What you write below is speculative nonsense. AG* The system is in some immaterial state with contradictory properties existing all at the same time, and only the measurement actualizes one outcome. On Sunday 6 October 2024 at 15:50:59 UTC+3 Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, October 4, 2024 at 9:14:38 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote: On 10/4/2024 7:31 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, October 4, 2024 at 5:48:31 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote: No, this was a conundrum of classical physics which was solved when Heisenberg showed that on Christmas eve Santa Claus was in a superposition of being down every chimney at once. Brent Superposition just means we are ignorant of which state a system is in, not that it is in all states simultaneously. This is the meaning of Schrodinger's cat. AG Exactly wrong. Brent Remember what Carl Sagan said; "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." In this case, with your strong confidence, you can surely point to the postulates in QM that imply your claim about superposition. Schrodinger thought otherwise and his position should not be taken lightly. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/946d35f3-e66c-4173-8836-8b59c5b4a9e6n%40googlegroups.com.
