On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 7:17 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
*>> the violation of Bell's Inequality proves that LOCAL hidden variables >> do not exist IF the universe is realistic and deterministic.* > > > *> How did "deterministic" get in there. Bell's inequality is violated > even if there is a local shared random variable.* > *A theory that is non-local, non-deterministic and non-realistic would still be compatible with the violation of Bell's Inequality, although I'm not aware of anybody proposing such a theory. The violation of Bell's Inequality does not rule out Objective Collapse Theories even though they are realistic and local because they are also non-deterministic. The violation of Bell's Inequality does not rule out Pilot Wave Theory because it is deterministic and realistic but not local. The violation of Bell's Inequality does not rule out Many Worlds because it's local and deterministic but not realistic. You can't have all three, at least one's got to go; I think it's realism but I could be wrong.* * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* ux0 prs > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1t%2BcYHUayNDXwFxNeaX5pOQaaqe%2Bg0j5Nf6DgXhXVj7Q%40mail.gmail.com.

