On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 7:17 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

*>>  the violation of Bell's Inequality proves that LOCAL hidden variables
>> do not exist IF the universe is realistic and deterministic.*
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> *> How did "deterministic" get in there.  Bell's inequality is violated
> even if there is a local shared random variable.*
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*A theory that is non-local, non-deterministic and non-realistic would
still be compatible with the violation of Bell's Inequality, although I'm
not aware of anybody proposing such a theory.  The violation of Bell's
Inequality does not rule out Objective Collapse Theories even though they
are realistic and local because they are also non-deterministic. The
violation of Bell's Inequality does not rule out Pilot Wave Theory because
it is deterministic and realistic but not local. The violation of Bell's
Inequality does not rule out Many Worlds because it's local and
deterministic but not realistic. You can't have all three, at least one's
got to go; I think it's realism but I could be wrong.*

* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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