On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 11:55 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 7:17 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> > wrote: > > *>> the violation of Bell's Inequality proves that LOCAL hidden variables >>> do not exist IF the universe is realistic and deterministic.* >> >> > >> *> How did "deterministic" get in there. Bell's inequality is violated >> even if there is a local shared random variable.* >> > > *A theory that is non-local, non-deterministic and non-realistic would > still be compatible with the violation of Bell's Inequality, although I'm > not aware of anybody proposing such a theory. The violation of Bell's > Inequality does not rule out Objective Collapse Theories even though they > are realistic and local because they are also non-deterministic. The > violation of Bell's Inequality does not rule out Pilot Wave Theory because > it is deterministic and realistic but not local. The violation of Bell's > Inequality does not rule out Many Worlds because it's local and > deterministic but not realistic. You can't have all three, at least one's > got to go; I think it's realism but I could be wrong.* > No local theory can explain the violation of the Bell inequalities. Realism and determinism are essentially irrelevant in this context. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLR4S3S9akNNvzMb6Y3TCca7fqKhKo%3D3Eziu6ME%3DF4BO9A%40mail.gmail.com.
