Why not? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Joyce Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Size Question Can a recovery server be built in vmware for testing purposes ? Anyone tried this ? Matt Joyce Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben > Winzenz > Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2004 11:50 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Backup Size Question > > > Why would it be a bad thing to teach staff how to recover items using > Recover Deleted Items? > > I have no problem building a recovery server if a message is needed > beyond the retention period. It is good practice, and should be done > at least several times a year in any case. > It's much better to struggle to build a recovery server the first few > times, when it isn't critical, rather than struggle to get that same > recovery server built in a time of crisis when your job is perhaps on > the line. > > Ben Winzenz, MCSE > MS Exchange MVP > MessageOne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Matthew Joyce Posted At: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 > 2:06 AM Posted To: swynk > Conversation: Backup Size Question > Subject: RE: Backup Size Question > > > > If you stop backing up the mailboxes in favour of backing up the whole > store, you will not be able to restore mailbox sub folders in the same > way, you will have to teach staff to recover them from outlook > (tools/recover deleted items) You may want to increase your delete > item retention period, and this will increase your store size, but it > will probably still be smaller on tape than the exploded (for want of > a better term) mailboxes. > > The only problem with this I have found is if someone want to restore > a message or folder from beyond the retention period. > > > Matt Joyce > Children's Cancer Institute Australia > http://www.ccia.org.au > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Stephen Reboulet > > Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2004 7:36 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Backup Size Question > > > > > > maybe I'm understanding it wrong, didn't know I had another choice. > > Tried backing up the *edb file, but am told 'file in use' and won't > > backup. > > > > With the individual backup (the only way I've gotten it to run), I > > have been able to restore users's files (someone deleted a > subfolder > > of their email), etc. For the type of restores that I've needed to > > do, it seemed to be working fine. > > > > Is there a better way (or a pointer to types I could examine) to be > > backing up? > > > > And thanks for the explanation, that certainly make sense. > > > > At 05:32 PM 6/21/2004, Ben Winzenz wrote: > > >Absolutely. Google for Single Instance Storage and you will > > have your > > >answer. When you perform individual mailbox backups, you > are likely > > >forcing the backup to create a copy of each message > > contained in each > > >mailbox. If 1 message was sent to all 300 mailboxes (as an > > example), > > >instead of only having one copy, and 300 pointers, you now have 300 > > >copies in your backup. Newer versions may work better with > > this, but > > >what are you really gaining by doing an individual mailbox backup? > > > > > >Ben Winzenz, MCSE > > >MS Exchange MVP > > >MessageOne > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > >Stephen Reboulet Posted At: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:21 PM > Posted To: > > >swynk > > >Conversation: Backup Size Question > > >Subject: Backup Size Question > > > > > > > > >One question that has been nagging me is that the end result > > of backing > > >up the mailboxes on my Exchange server, exceeds the total > > file size of > > >the priv.edb file. > > > > > >When I'm done backing up, it finishes and say 31gb of data > backed up > > >(Veritas). But the private.edb file is only 22gb. Actually > > if I take > > >the whole drive, I'm only using 23gb. > > > > > >Is this typical to have such a size discrepancy when backing up > > >individual mailboxes? Some data duplicated twice by this method? > > > > > >-stephen- > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > >Web Interface: > > >http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&; > text_mode= > >& > >lang=english > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >%%email.unsub%% > >Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > >Corp. > >Attn: Discussion List Management > >475 Park Avenue South > >New York, NY 10016 > > > >Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > >Web Interface: > >http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&; > text_mode= > &lang=english > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >%%email.unsub%% > >Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > >Corp. > >Attn: Discussion List Management > >475 Park Avenue South > >New York, NY 10016 > > > >Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=& lang=english To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. 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