Likely a GWART issue. You probably need to cycle through and do recal/update
in some orderly fashion in your org.

How many physical ways do you have out to the Inet?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


No.  From a users point of view the mail goes as normal.  No bounced
message.  The external recipient never receives the email.  I sent several
messages to an external account of mine on Friday to test that haven't been
received, I haven't received any bounced messages.  If I track one of these
messages I get Message Submitted by Mark Brown.  That's it.  It doesn't go
anywhere else.  If I track a message before the problem it gets submitted to
the correct IMC and tracked properly.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:43
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


Well, it goes somewhere!

When users compose and send mail do messages stay in the users outboxes?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


I moved all folders including all hidden folders.  I moved all connectors, I
created a new IMS.  I turned all the services off from the first server, ran
like that for a week with no lost email.  Site Connectors all work,
Directory Replication all works, I can send internet email via another site.
As soon as I deleted the first server in the site Internet Email stopped
working.  It doesn't go anywhere.  Message Tracking shows the message being
submitted by the user, but it doesn't go anywhere else.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


Did you move all the appropriate folders to the other server before you got
rid of the 1st one?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


Yes

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


Was it the original and 1st server in the site?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 22:49
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole

>My first guess is to look at the GWART and see what's showing as the
>actual
options for  >SMTP message delivery (you can also look at the site
addressing properties on the routing >tab). That should tell you where the
mail is going. Try forcing replication and then     >recalculating routing
to see if the GWART changes.

GWART is fine.  It shows the workaround that I have put into place.  Namely
that Site2Exchange via a site connector to Site2 is the primary SMTP route
and the secondary SMTP route is Internet Mail Connector on Exchange1.

>Pay particular attention to the address space assigned to the IMS, and
>also
verify all   >IMS settings.

Address space for the IMS is currently SMTP * 10 Organization.  Prior to the
workaround it was SMTP * 1 Organization.

Internet email was working 100% with the first exchange server
(Exchange)still in the site but with all services stopped.  As soon as I
deleted the server out of the site Internet email disappears into a black
hole.  It isn't getting delivered at all.

Mark

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