I can use Outlook Express to send email externally by specifying the Exchange server as the SMTP server.
Mark -----Original Message----- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 11:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Internet Email Blackhole What happens if you send mail via a telnet session from the server where the user's mailbox resides. Does it get sent? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brown, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > If it was a routing problem wouldn't I be able to find where the mail > was going? Wouldn't it be queued somewhere? > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 11:38 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Internet Email Blackhole > > > Hope you let us know what the solution is after you call PSS. It still > sounds like a routing problem though. Good Luck > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brown, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:06 PM > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > The GWART shows the correct information though. That's what I don't > > understand. > > > > All of our sites have a Frame Relay connection to an Telstra > > intranet product that provides connectivity within our organisation > > (Private IP addresses). Telstra also provides internet access > > through the same Frame Relay service using NAT. So all our machines > > have access to the internet. Each Exchange server is configured to > > send external email from that site > via > > their own IMS. Each site has 1 Exchange server. The site that is > > having problems originally had 1 Exchange server, I built a new > > server to replace it, moved everything across. Stopped all the > > services on the first and verified everything was working. Once the > > server was deleted Internet > email > > stopped working for that site only. My workaround is to send all > > email > via > > a different site (increased the cost for the IMS in this site to 10, > > made sure the directory was replicated properly and recalculated the > > routing), now internet email is working, but this is not a very cost > > effective solution. Internet email Traffic is now being sent from > > here onto the > Frame > > Relay to the other site, then back onto the Frame Relay to go out to > > the Internet. > > > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:59 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > Likely a GWART issue. You probably need to cycle through and do > recal/update > > in some orderly fashion in your org. > > > > How many physical ways do you have out to the Inet? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:49 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > No. From a users point of view the mail goes as normal. No bounced > > message. The external recipient never receives the email. I sent > > several messages to an external account of mine on Friday to test > > that haven't > been > > received, I haven't received any bounced messages. If I track one > > of > these > > messages I get Message Submitted by Mark Brown. That's it. It > > doesn't go anywhere else. If I track a message before the problem > > it gets submitted > to > > the correct IMC and tracked properly. > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:43 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > Well, it goes somewhere! > > > > When users compose and send mail do messages stay in the users > > outboxes? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:36 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > I moved all folders including all hidden folders. I moved all > > connectors, > I > > created a new IMS. I turned all the services off from the first > > server, > ran > > like that for a week with no lost email. Site Connectors all work, > > Directory Replication all works, I can send internet email via > > another > site. > > As soon as I deleted the first server in the site Internet Email > > stopped working. It doesn't go anywhere. Message Tracking shows > > the message > being > > submitted by the user, but it doesn't go anywhere else. > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:36 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > Did you move all the appropriate folders to the other server before > > you > got > > rid of the 1st one? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:08 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > Yes > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:05 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > Was it the original and 1st server in the site? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:55 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 22:49 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > > >My first guess is to look at the GWART and see what's showing as > > >the actual > > options for >SMTP message delivery (you can also look at the site > > addressing properties on the routing >tab). That should tell you > > where the > > mail is going. Try forcing replication and then >recalculating routing > > to see if the GWART changes. > > > > GWART is fine. It shows the workaround that I have put into place. > Namely > > that Site2Exchange via a site connector to Site2 is the primary SMTP > > route and the secondary SMTP route is Internet Mail Connector on > > Exchange1. > > > > >Pay particular attention to the address space assigned to the IMS, > > >and also > > verify all >IMS settings. > > > > Address space for the IMS is currently SMTP * 10 Organization. > > Prior to > the > > workaround it was SMTP * 1 Organization. > > > > Internet email was working 100% with the first exchange server > > (Exchange)still in the site but with all services stopped. As soon > > as I deleted the server out of the site Internet email disappears > > into a black hole. It isn't getting delivered at all. > > > > Mark > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
