What happens if you send mail via a telnet session from the server where the
user's mailbox resides. Does it get sent?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brown, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole


> If it was a routing problem wouldn't I be able to find where the mail was
> going?  Wouldn't it be queued somewhere?
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 11:38
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Internet Email Blackhole
>
>
> Hope you let us know what the solution is after you call PSS. It still
> sounds like a routing problem though. Good Luck
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brown, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:06 PM
> Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
>
>
> > The GWART shows the correct information though.  That's what I don't
> > understand.
> >
> > All of our sites have a Frame Relay connection to an Telstra intranet
> > product that provides connectivity within our organisation (Private IP
> > addresses).  Telstra also provides internet access through the same
> > Frame Relay service using NAT.  So all our machines have access to the
> > internet. Each Exchange server is configured to send external email
> > from that site
> via
> > their own IMS.  Each site has 1 Exchange server.  The site that is
> > having problems originally had 1 Exchange server, I built a new server
> > to replace it, moved everything across.  Stopped all the services on
> > the first and verified everything was working.  Once the server was
> > deleted Internet
> email
> > stopped working for that site only.  My workaround is to send all
> > email
> via
> > a different site (increased the cost for the IMS in this site to 10,
> > made sure the directory was replicated properly and recalculated the
> > routing), now internet email is working, but this is not a very cost
> > effective solution.  Internet email Traffic is now being sent from
> > here onto the
> Frame
> > Relay to the other site, then back onto the Frame Relay to go out to
> > the Internet.
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:59
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > Likely a GWART issue. You probably need to cycle through and do
> recal/update
> > in some orderly fashion in your org.
> >
> > How many physical ways do you have out to the Inet?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:49 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > No.  From a users point of view the mail goes as normal.  No bounced
> > message.  The external recipient never receives the email.  I sent
> > several messages to an external account of mine on Friday to test that
> > haven't
> been
> > received, I haven't received any bounced messages.  If I track one of
> these
> > messages I get Message Submitted by Mark Brown.  That's it.  It
> > doesn't go anywhere else.  If I track a message before the problem it
> > gets submitted
> to
> > the correct IMC and tracked properly.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:43
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > Well, it goes somewhere!
> >
> > When users compose and send mail do messages stay in the users
> > outboxes?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > I moved all folders including all hidden folders.  I moved all
> > connectors,
> I
> > created a new IMS.  I turned all the services off from the first
> > server,
> ran
> > like that for a week with no lost email.  Site Connectors all work,
> > Directory Replication all works, I can send internet email via another
> site.
> > As soon as I deleted the first server in the site Internet Email
> > stopped working.  It doesn't go anywhere.  Message Tracking shows the
> > message
> being
> > submitted by the user, but it doesn't go anywhere else.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:36
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > Did you move all the appropriate folders to the other server before
> > you
> got
> > rid of the 1st one?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:08 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:05
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > Was it the original and 1st server in the site?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark
> > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:55 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 22:49
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole
> >
> > >My first guess is to look at the GWART and see what's showing as the
> > >actual
> > options for  >SMTP message delivery (you can also look at the site
> > addressing properties on the routing >tab). That should tell you where
the
> > mail is going. Try forcing replication and then     >recalculating
routing
> > to see if the GWART changes.
> >
> > GWART is fine.  It shows the workaround that I have put into place.
> Namely
> > that Site2Exchange via a site connector to Site2 is the primary SMTP
> > route and the secondary SMTP route is Internet Mail Connector on
> > Exchange1.
> >
> > >Pay particular attention to the address space assigned to the IMS,
> > >and also
> > verify all   >IMS settings.
> >
> > Address space for the IMS is currently SMTP * 10 Organization.  Prior
> > to
> the
> > workaround it was SMTP * 1 Organization.
> >
> > Internet email was working 100% with the first exchange server
> > (Exchange)still in the site but with all services stopped.  As soon as
> > I deleted the server out of the site Internet email disappears into a
> > black hole.  It isn't getting delivered at all.
> >
> > Mark
> >
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