If it was a routing problem wouldn't I be able to find where the mail was going? Wouldn't it be queued somewhere?
Mark -----Original Message----- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 11:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Internet Email Blackhole Hope you let us know what the solution is after you call PSS. It still sounds like a routing problem though. Good Luck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brown, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:06 PM Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > The GWART shows the correct information though. That's what I don't > understand. > > All of our sites have a Frame Relay connection to an Telstra intranet > product that provides connectivity within our organisation (Private IP > addresses). Telstra also provides internet access through the same > Frame Relay service using NAT. So all our machines have access to the > internet. Each Exchange server is configured to send external email > from that site via > their own IMS. Each site has 1 Exchange server. The site that is > having problems originally had 1 Exchange server, I built a new server > to replace it, moved everything across. Stopped all the services on > the first and verified everything was working. Once the server was > deleted Internet email > stopped working for that site only. My workaround is to send all > email via > a different site (increased the cost for the IMS in this site to 10, > made sure the directory was replicated properly and recalculated the > routing), now internet email is working, but this is not a very cost > effective solution. Internet email Traffic is now being sent from > here onto the Frame > Relay to the other site, then back onto the Frame Relay to go out to > the Internet. > > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:59 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > Likely a GWART issue. You probably need to cycle through and do recal/update > in some orderly fashion in your org. > > How many physical ways do you have out to the Inet? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:49 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > No. From a users point of view the mail goes as normal. No bounced > message. The external recipient never receives the email. I sent > several messages to an external account of mine on Friday to test that > haven't been > received, I haven't received any bounced messages. If I track one of these > messages I get Message Submitted by Mark Brown. That's it. It > doesn't go anywhere else. If I track a message before the problem it > gets submitted to > the correct IMC and tracked properly. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:43 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > Well, it goes somewhere! > > When users compose and send mail do messages stay in the users > outboxes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:36 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > I moved all folders including all hidden folders. I moved all > connectors, I > created a new IMS. I turned all the services off from the first > server, ran > like that for a week with no lost email. Site Connectors all work, > Directory Replication all works, I can send internet email via another site. > As soon as I deleted the first server in the site Internet Email > stopped working. It doesn't go anywhere. Message Tracking shows the > message being > submitted by the user, but it doesn't go anywhere else. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:36 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > Did you move all the appropriate folders to the other server before > you got > rid of the 1st one? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:08 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > Yes > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 6 January 2003 10:05 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > Was it the original and 1st server in the site? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Mark > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 2:55 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 22:49 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Internet Email Blackhole > > >My first guess is to look at the GWART and see what's showing as the > >actual > options for >SMTP message delivery (you can also look at the site > addressing properties on the routing >tab). That should tell you where the > mail is going. Try forcing replication and then >recalculating routing > to see if the GWART changes. > > GWART is fine. It shows the workaround that I have put into place. Namely > that Site2Exchange via a site connector to Site2 is the primary SMTP > route and the secondary SMTP route is Internet Mail Connector on > Exchange1. > > >Pay particular attention to the address space assigned to the IMS, > >and also > verify all >IMS settings. > > Address space for the IMS is currently SMTP * 10 Organization. Prior > to the > workaround it was SMTP * 1 Organization. > > Internet email was working 100% with the first exchange server > (Exchange)still in the site but with all services stopped. As soon as > I deleted the server out of the site Internet email disappears into a > black hole. It isn't getting delivered at all. > > Mark > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
