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From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

So you are going to quibble with things that "I" said? You people are so
whacked out that it is utterly incomprehensible. So where were you when
I
was called a "liar" or a "wife beater" or "stupid" or "idiot" or that I
"starve children". All of that is OK in your whacky bizarro world, but
explaining to someone that if you start a fight (in email for Christ's
sake) that I will finish that fight. Oh that is TERRIBLE! How could you
SAY such a thing. Never mind the "liar", "stupid", "idiot" stuff, THAT,
sir, is uncalled for.

Bob, you amaze me.

> You know, I'm just as happy to NOT read this dribble, but when someone
> points out so wonderfully how ethical they are, and we can all go to
> www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml to prove it, then someone like me just
> might go there and read, and low and behold what is it we find?
> 
> Well, this character Greg, wants us all to believe his "ethics" are
> without question.  So, let's take a look at his ethics page and see
what
> he's supposed to be doing.
> 
> First, Greg's point of vendor conflict is answered here:
> 
> To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products=20
> 
> One must ask then Greg, have you ever been to a seminar, conference,
or
> LUNCH where the vendor presenting paid for the meal, the snacks, the
> coffee?
> 
> Second, Greg's list of ethics claim:
> 
> To disclose any and all influences that may affect our
recommendations=20
> 
> Greg, does this mean that if I were to speak to you over the phone,
you
> would tell me just how many times your Cisco, Microsoft, Bay Networks,
> etc., Rep. has called?  Or are you saying that you never meet with the
> vendors to discuss how their products can benefit your customers?  Do
> you ever read trade magazines that discuss the use of one vendors
> products over another?  Will you then tell me all the magazines you
> read, what date, publication, page number, etc?
> 
> Third, Greg's list goes on to say:
> 
> To be fair and accurate when resolving disputes, problems or issues
> [and] To conduct ourselves in a professional manner at all times=20
> 
> One must ask then Greg, exactly how does your statement of: "Wrong.
You
> brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I finish
> them." work into these statements?
> 
> This is just what I don't need in a vendor.  Someone who believes he's
> always right, and if he is going to have a fight with his customers,
> HE'S going to finish it.  I can see now why people flock to your
> organization Greg.
> 
> The point is, don't say something matters a great deal to you, and
then
> give this list plenty of examples showing that apparently it doesn't.
> You want to wave a flag around and say "I have ethics" and yet not
live
> by those same ethics, then be prepared to be inundated with the
> onslaught.
> 
> I would trust Ed, Tom, Tony, and even Don, further then I would trust
> someone yelling about how ethical they are and at the same time say
> they'll finish any fight.
> 
> It's time to throttle back now greg, and realize this.  You are a
Sales
> Manager for a company that apparently you are supposed to be drumming
up
> business for.  Just how much business do you think you have generated
on
> this list after acting in the manner you did?
> 
> Bob Sadler
> 
> -----Original Message-----

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