Hey Dan, have you rejoined SCCA yet. Just want to know who the players are :-).
Art -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dan hester Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc Model No.: GSXR 600 Product Origin: Japan Brand Name: Suzuki Unit Price: 3,100.00 USD Certification(s): Indonesia Trading Department this is what a dealer pays for the entire bike .give or take a few $ depending on how many they order hmmmmm, allthough chuck is obviously against the whole idea, i would like to point out the stimate for exaust is kinda crazy, you have to remember the 4 syroke doesn't rely on the exhaust to run so its not as touchy as the f500 pipes. Dan >From: "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 07:29:42 -0700 > >Yes Chris, that's right, but then a old wagon should be easier to work >on and prep. >It is a very conservative comparison for what it will cost for members >to have a front running stock 4-stroke-it shall probably be even more >than that since these are more complicated motors than Pinto motors. > > >Chuck > > > > > >>From: Chris Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc >>Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:53:32 -0700 (PDT) >> >> Comparing a Pinto engine to the GSXR is like comparing a wagon train >>to a F1 car.... >> >> CR >> >>Chuck Voboril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There is no fair comparison cost wise at this point The GSXR600 may >>be far more expensive than a 2-stroke. >> >>The GXSR600 is spec'd by the mfg at 115 HP motor in pure stock form >>with a quiet exhaust system on pump gas-not a bad thing. >> >>The GSXR750 is 146 HP stock. >> >>However, within the limits of ANY stock engine class, there is ALWAYS >>more HP to be had. >> >>The STOCK cam and STOCK carburator Pinto motor puts out 115 HP in FF1600. >>Yet this was about a 80 HP engine from the factory. >> >>Chuck >> >> >> >> >> >>Chuck >> >> >> >> >> >> >From: "Robert Wilson" >> >Reply-To: [email protected] >> >To: >> >Subject: Re: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc >> >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:06:43 -0400 >> > >> >I think there should be testing done before we "assume" that this >> >will >>be a >> >"bottomless money pit". Maybe the stock engine will perform closely >> >to >>the >> >current engines. Noone knows until we test. If they are close, I >> >would propose that the motor would have to be left in stock >> >configuration. If >>it >> >under-performs (which I doubt), then you would be getting into >> >internal mods, which I agree that would be no good for the class. >> > >> >Bottom line, if the stock motor is close performance wise, and costs >>close >> >to half the price of a new rotax setup with clutching, why would >> >anyone >>be >> >against it? Hell, if you blow one up, you can buy a brand new one >>instead >> >of rebuild! >> > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Jim's Lawn Shop" >> >To: >> >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:14 AM >> >Subject: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc >> > >> > >> > > Chuck, >> > > Don't forget, about 6 months after you get the "stock" engine >> > > done a manufacture will have a better one out and you can do it >> > > all over again. >> > > This will be a bottomless money pit! >> > > Dave Phaneuf >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Don't pick lemons. >>See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
