Right now a top of the pine 1600cc Fford engine is $12K & a 2L Pinto is $13K. These prices are the result of the continued use & development of engines that are no longer available and were build when tolerances were not what they are today. They also require a lot of maint & freshening. A 2L Zetec with FI is $7K & can run or 5K miles between rebuilds.
Thanks ... Jay Novak -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Reinhardt Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc Is a Pinto FF motor easy and cheap to keep going??? Like the wagon, it was cheap and easy back in the day.... CR Chuck Voboril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes Chris, that's right, but then a old wagon should be easier to work on and prep. It is a very conservative comparison for what it will cost for members to have a front running stock 4-stroke-it shall probably be even more than that since these are more complicated motors than Pinto motors. Chuck >From: Chris Reinhardt >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:53:32 -0700 (PDT) > > Comparing a Pinto engine to the GSXR is like comparing a wagon train to a >F1 car.... > > CR > >Chuck Voboril wrote: > There is no fair comparison cost wise at this point >The GSXR600 may be far more expensive than a 2-stroke. > >The GXSR600 is spec'd by the mfg at 115 HP motor in pure stock form with a >quiet exhaust system on pump gas-not a bad thing. > >The GSXR750 is 146 HP stock. > >However, within the limits of ANY stock engine class, there is ALWAYS more >HP to be had. > >The STOCK cam and STOCK carburator Pinto motor puts out 115 HP in FF1600. >Yet this was about a 80 HP engine from the factory. > >Chuck > > > > > >Chuck > > > > > > >From: "Robert Wilson" > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: > >Subject: Re: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:06:43 -0400 > > > >I think there should be testing done before we "assume" that this will be >a > >"bottomless money pit". Maybe the stock engine will perform closely to >the > >current engines. Noone knows until we test. If they are close, I would > >propose that the motor would have to be left in stock configuration. If >it > >under-performs (which I doubt), then you would be getting into internal > >mods, which I agree that would be no good for the class. > > > >Bottom line, if the stock motor is close performance wise, and costs >close > >to half the price of a new rotax setup with clutching, why would anyone >be > >against it? Hell, if you blow one up, you can buy a brand new one instead > >of rebuild! > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jim's Lawn Shop" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:14 AM > >Subject: [F500] Pricing Rotax vs. 4strk GXSR 600cc > > > > > > > Chuck, > > > Don't forget, about 6 months after you get the "stock" engine > > > done a manufacture will have a better one out and you can > > > do it all over again. > > > This will be a bottomless money pit! > > > Dave Phaneuf > > > >--------------------------------- >Don't pick lemons. >See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/752 - Release Date: 4/8/2007 8:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/752 - Release Date: 4/8/2007 8:34 PM ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
