From: Bob Brigante
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005
12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I
would like to try an experiment in compassion
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In [email protected],
"mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> From:
Bob Brigante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:
Friday, March 18, 2005 6:54 PM
> To: [email protected]
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I would like to try an experiment in
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compassion
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> --- In [email protected],
"easyone200"
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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--- In [email protected],
"Bob Brigante"
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected],
"rudra_joe"
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> wrote:
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> > I come off as a loose cannon. I have been trying to give up
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> drugs
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> for a long time. I could use your help in the form of
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prayers. I
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> can't really be the person I want to be until I stop but it's
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> really
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> really hard for me to give up smoking, and pot, and booze. So
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> could
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> you people place me in your prayers for giving up drugs and
> gaining
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> more self control? I would really appreciate whatever help I
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> might
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> get. I dedicate all such efforts to the liberation of all
> beings.
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> *********
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> You have to give TM (the highest form of prayer) a chance,
> which
> you
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> are not doing by smoking dope and excessive alcohol intake.
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> I know you are not looking for advice (if you actually wanted
> to
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> change, you would do so without any input from anybody), but
> here
> it
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> is anyway:
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> 1. Stop smoking pot (why do you think the TMO asks people to
> stop
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> illegal drug use prior to starting TM?).
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> 2. Pick a limit on your alcohol consumption, and stick to it.
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> That
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> lardass moron Rush Limbaugh lost 100 lbs by hiring a chef who
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> instituted portion control into his diet (no seconds!).
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> 3. Don't worry about the cigarettes, they'll go away
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somewhere
> down
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> the line if you are regular in your TM (and not overwhelming
> the
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> benefits with psychotropic drugs).
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Bob
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Think you can come off the mountain and stop preaching your
> narrow
> minded
TM crap for
> > a
millisecond?
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> *******
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> If you
could transcend for a millisecond, it would do your
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hysterical
>
personality a world of good. The well-documented tendency of
> folks
> who are
fortunate enough to be able to T-meditate (not you) is to
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> reduce
drug use:
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> http://www.noetic.org/research/medbiblio/ch3_3.htm
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> Bob,
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> It
seems your only advice for RJ is to do TM and don't do drugs.
> Forgive
me if I'm wrong, but didn't he say that he had already
> tried
TM and it didn't work for his addiction(s)?
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>
>
> -Mark
>
Ask RJ, if,
in his time at MIU, he was drug-free as suggested by TM
teachers?
It's my impression that he has never put away drugs for the
length of
time necessary to give him the feeling of well-being that
he is
seeking. If you don't want to follow the TM advice (which
includes as
a precursor not using illegal drugs), then you cannot
gain the
benefits associated with the practice.
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Bob,
I remember there being a requirement to
abstain from “drugs” for 3 weeks before being initiated. After
that, I don’t remember a specific drug-free time requirement “necessary to give ... the feeling of
well-being”. RJ, did you fulfill the 3-week requirement?
OOH, the 3-week thing is somewhat
understandable. OTOH, it is like asking the person who wants to meditate to
relieve stress, to be stress-free for 3 weeks prior to becoming initiated. “DUH!
If I could do that, I would not need to meditate.”
-Mark