--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So if what some are saying comes true, and if 50-100 years France > and Germany become majority Muslim states, do you feel these states > will be better or worse off for non-Muslims and women? What about > people who are not "of the book", like , Atheists, Hindus and > Buddhists? What about human rights in general?
I have no idea. As far as I can tell, both France and Germany are pretty strongly in the "If you move to our country, you tacitly agree to play by our rules" camp. And they've gotten very little negative feedback on that from anyone but insane fanatical Muslims. Unfortunately, as in the US, the insane fanatics tend to get the airplay on the News, so people think there are more of them than there are. In my experience, most of the Muslim community thinks these people are insane, too. They're not going to let a few fanatics spoil it for the rest of them in the long run. > On Sep 26, 2007, at 7:34 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > Actually I found Judy's original post about the little Koran > > > singer amusing in that she had considered converting to Judaism > > > once before and was gushing over a little boy singing from the > > > Koran without knowing what he was singing. For all anybody knew, > > > he could have been singing about killing Jews and other infidels. > > > Just my observation which I found ironic. Meanwhile, I'm attacked > > > and called a bigot because I dare associate Islam with anything > > > negative like bigotry towards Jews and infidels and accused of > > > promoting Israeli propaganda, code word for *Jewish lies*. Such > > > is a day in Fairfield Life:) > > > > While I agree with you completely on what's been > > going on here on Fairfield Life, I think that even > > you will have to admit that there *is* a great deal > > of Israeli propaganda, and has been for decades. > > It coincides with a lot of the Neocon/Bush propa- > > ganda, in that both sets of People With Agendas > > would like nothing better than for people all over > > the world to hear the words 'Arab' or 'Muslim' and > > then, in their next thought, automatically associate > > those words with 'terrorist' and 'killer.' > > > > And, sadly, they have accomplished this to some > > extent in the United States. You really don't see > > it as much here in Europe, where they're more used > > to dealing with people from different countries > > and different traditions as individuals, not as > > symbols for something. > > > > When you live alongside a lot of Muslims, and deal > > with them on a day-to-day basis, it's easier to > > understand that the propaganda about them is just > > that, and that they're human beings just like you > > and me who, for the most part, want the same things > > that you and I want. But for Americans who have been > > frightened into being *afraid* of anyone who looks > > even remotely Middle Eastern, and regarding them as > > a potential terrorist ready to kill them the moment > > their back is turned, it's quite a different story. > > > > I've met a number of Americans over here lately, > > and I have to tell you how *shocking* it is to hear > > the things they think, and the things they worry > > about. After living in Europe for four years, I have > > grown used to an environment in which there is *zero* > > fear of terrorism in the general population. There > > is an *awareness* of it, and there are measures in > > place to prevent anything from happening, but it > > really doesn't impinge on the private lives of most > > of the people. I would go so far as to say that the > > fear of terrorism never even enters their minds; > > they're too busy living their lives and enjoying > > those lives, for the most part. > > > > And then I meet the Americans. *Smart* Americans, > > *intelligent* Americans, not like Bush and his cronies. > > And they can't go an hour without mentioning terrorism > > at least once. > > > > It's very, very sad from my point of view. It's an > > indication that the terrorists WON with regard to > > America and Americans. When the bombs went off in > > Madrid, half the population of the city marched to > > show their protest, and their conviction that such > > things were impermissible, and that they wouldn't > > tolerate them. But then they went back to their lives. > > Same in London, with the subway bombings. The next > > day people were back at work and back in their lives. > > They didn't allow the mind virus of "terrorism" to > > take over their lives and make them worried much of > > the time and make them give away their liberties. I'm > > sorry, dude, but Americans did. They allowed the > > terrorists to WIN, by allowing these mind viruses > > free rein in their minds. > > > > In a way it's similar to some of the games we see > > played here on FFL. There are people whose goal in > > life seems to be to suck attention. They want you to > > *focus on them*. They want to believe that you're > > thinking about them all the time, even if what they > > believe you're thinking is how to do them or their > > reputations harm. They're like "attention terrorists," > > always trying to push themselves into somebody else's > > mind. > > > > Me, I don't stand for it any more. Like the Spanish > > and like the British, I've got more important things > > to do than think about insecure pissants who want to > > force their way into your attention field. Like living. > > Like working. Like playing and having fun. > > > > I have realized that the pissants are going to be > > stalking me and other people here that they don't > > like pretty much forever. I can't do anything about > > it; it just seems to be how their minds work, their > > "operating system." But I don't have to allow them > > into *my* mind. > > > > As with terrorism, living well is the best revenge. > > > > > > >
