> Just my 2 cents. You are a valued contributor here and it would be a > shame to be denied your insights. > > Marek >
I second that. New may have his own reasons to take some time out and I can appreciate that. But I agree that shutting you down by raving is uncool and I hope it doesn't keep you off (oops!) the board. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > New.M., please take whatever time off from posting here that you want > but not based on OffWorld's comments and complaints. His complaints > have no merit whatsoever, either real or imagined, and the lack of > substance, hateful tone and emotional imbalance his posts convey > (IMO) are pretty compelling reasons for him being banned from posting > here, even permanently. > > There was another Tom person who also started threatening en masse > anyone and everyone who posted anything that he considered contrary > to his position and he was eventually banned permanently. I'm not > sure what could have precipitated OffWorld's apparent emotional > breakdown but it's certainly not anything you posted and you > shouldn't refrain from posting because of it. > > Just my 2 cents. You are a valued contributor here and it would be a > shame to be denied your insights. > > Marek > > > ** > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > [ paraphrasing in brackets: I will be very mad and hurt] "if > > > you are not banned for one month, or voluntarily ban yourself for > one > > > month." > > > > ========================= > > > > I have long held, over some years, that personal insults poison the > > mood on FFL (and any forum). Going back over 4 years, the FFL > > guidelines have admonished their use. We have had more recent > > guidelines that personal attacks would be met with time-outs. I > think > > this approach should be applied more often and pointedly than it is > > for those who make continued attacks on others. > > > > Challenge others' ideas vigorously -- but respect the poster for at > > least trying to articulate their thoughts. I think we all learn when > > posting, we "work it out". And some of our worse ideas get most > > vigorously challenged by ourselves. So any post, no mater how silly, > > is, possibly and IMO probably, a step, towards understanding. For > the > > poster and the readers (if they care to read insulting. personal > > attacking posters). > > > > Time-outs are good. In the passion of the moment, even the most > > enlightened get carried away. Personally, I would like to see the > > standard that if anyone feels insulted, the poster should excuse him > > or herself for some period. Even if they don't feel that they lobbed > > an insult. > > > > IMO, good or neutral intentions don't matter if the result is > someone > > feeling insulted, and starts a cycle of endless retribution. And the > > insultee closes up abit. Puts on more armor. Not the best > environment > > for sharing "deep" an often quite personal thoughts and feelings. > > > > So I think Off has a good idea. If one has been insulted, and > > expresses such, ideally the insulter should take a self-determined > > time-out. Even if there was no intent to insult. > > > > Wider, and more sustained transgressions I believe should be handled > > by the moderators. Like Rick the Hammer. (Not that anyone is > thinking > > of calling him Rick the Chesse Puff, but enforcement does seem a > bit lax.) > > > > And if someone abuses the self-timeouts, by repeatedly "making it > up" > > that they feel insulted, this will be transparent. I think the forum > > should then act. Calling for a self-timeout for the boy crying wolf. > > If sustained, Rick-- Conan--the Hammer should sweep in with his > OverLords. > > > > Off felt insulted by my comment. As I have explained, it was not > meant > > as an insult, but simply a retort to a logical fallacy. None the > less, > > Off feels a one month ban is in order. OK. > > > > To demonstrate and perchance set an example of behavior fitting this > > forum, I will sign off for a month. Nay, make it until Feb 1st. And > > hopefully, other insulters (intentional or not) will do the same > > (with perhaps shorter durations) if other posters feel insulted by > > their comments. > > > > Happy Holidays to All. See you in February. > > > > New Morning > > >
