--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:26 PM, do.rflex wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:38 PM, do.rflex wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maharishi's answer doesn't clearly account for, as an example,
> > > > Satyanand's stated experience of hearing Guru Dev's voice  
> > *after* Guru
> > > > Dev's body had ceased to function. Nor does it account for my own
> > > > current experiences of Guru Dev, visually and telepathically.  
> > [Unless
> > > > of course, one claims that Guru Dev hadn't attained Cosmic
> > > > Consciousness.]
> > > >
> > > > Interestingly, I remember that exchange at Humboldt, as I waited  
> > on
> > > > every word. And I shared the frustration I sensed in the person  
> > that
> > > > asked that question as Maharishi did not clarify it  
> > satisfactorily.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Regarding early TMO pundits and "teachers": 'they certainly  
> > weren't no
> > > Acharyas'. :-)
> >
> > Brahmachari Satyanand, whom I referred to, had spent many years with
> > Guru Dev as a disciple. After Guru Dev's 'death' he later went on to
> > assist Maharishi spreading Transcendental Meditation, as I understand
> > it, until he died himself. I attended a course he conducted at Lake
> > Arrowhead in the early 70s and spoke with him individually and
> > privately at least three times, one of which was to receive an
> > advanced technique. I say this mainly to indicate that Satyanand was
> > directly involved with Guru Dev and Maharishi both.
> 
> 
> IME it's not a guarantee that these people are completely and  
> holistically trained in these sciences. I really, honestly, see most  
> of them as naive.


Fact is, you haven't seen Guru Dev or Brahmachari Satyanand at all.



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