--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 That I" people walk around with in waking
> state DOES NOT EXIST. It is a profound delusion. It
> has no more reality than the thought that you are a
> big chicken or a flounder. You are simply Primordial,
> Infinite Consciousness, Pure Shiva....boy, that's fun
> to say!

****
I cannot quite understand your reasoning dr.Pete. When you use the
word "you", aren't you referring to the "I" of another person. In your
writing you avoid the word "I" as referring to yourself, instead you
refer a lot to "you", the "I " of an other person. Aren't you
projecting out something?

Wouldn't it be clearer to make a distinction between different types
of "I". The "I" as an image or ideal of oneself is left behind in
enlightenment, and instead you experience infinity as the source. But
you don't drop the "I" as an organizing principle. It is in function,
when you think: "I will do this". At least I cannot imagine sensible
functioning in the world with a conscious human awareness having a
body without this kind of mediating entity between an event or
perception and  a reaction to it. It is also a uniting process that
creates a perception of continuity, rather than a label or image of
oneself. This function people call "I" mostly. I have very difficult
to conceive it vanishing, when you get enlightened.

You have often written that the personality cannot become enlightened.
Maybe not. Still you often refer to MMY, a person, as a blazing
Brahman. When I saw the pictures of your dogs, I saw in them as much
blazing Brahman as in MMY. That is of course quite logical, because
behind their relative manifestation, or personality, they too are
simply Primordial Infinite Cosciousness. Why then make such a fuss
about some gurus, if the personality cannot get enlightened?

Irmeli





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