On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Kirk wrote:
a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has transcended
all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks about.
i ask Vaj again- what are you doing here on FFL?
I invited Vaj here about two years ago as I became interested in
dzogchen
and I wanted someone here who could support me. I didn't care for the
gangland jumping in ceremony that goes on here amongst all the
separate
cults. Of course I needed someone on my side, so that's where he
came from.
As to why he remained, he obviously likes you guys and likes it
here and he
feels that he is educating you people. For instance, two years ago
not a
single person here had even heard of Dzogchen, and now people talk
about
rainbow bodies like it's a done deal. See, Vaj has had a profound
effect.
Certainly probably more profound to most than Share Intl or
Scientology, or
triple distilled preboiled virgin water from Mars. Anyone who
speaks at all
to the essence of the bodhisattva intention for liberating all
beings is
only doing good, whether others are able to perceive that or not.
I personally am more sorry for what he puts up with here than what
he puts
out. But that is his choice to remain. You know, every ceremony I
have ever
been at has screaming babies somewhere in the audience. No, I am
not talking
about Vaj. I am talking about those of you who have no capacity to
control
your mind and who always act according to habit and emotional
turmoil. You
guys might TM yourselves to Brahmaloka but, well, but, actually,
good luck
to you all. Good luck. Maharishi always spoke of 'merit' and
deserving
power being the real cause of liberation or not. None of this
interflensing
is going to be helping anyone very much. Now or ever.
Thanks Kirk.
It's funny, whenever someone brings up a topic and I comment
honestly--not based on image or a publicity--this truth seems to
rankle some who hold onto the image. I think we should try to see our
teachers and practices as they really are and that may vary from how
they are hyped or advertised.
You see the same thing whenever Paul Mason or John Knapp post here.
Because their descriptions vary from the airbrushed image and the
sales brochure people just fly off the handle. It's as if painting a
true and honest picture must be resisted at all costs. We must keep
the illusion going.
I just can't buy into that. I find the idea of actually having a
honest historical picture of various spiritual orgs, whether it be
the Catholic church, Shambhala International, Inc. or the TM Org
fascinating because the truth is stranger than the fiction. At least
that's been my experience.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -Hunter S. Thompson
