I just can't buy into that. I find the idea of actually having a honest historical picture of various spiritual orgs, whether it be the Catholic church, Shambhala International, Inc. or the TM Org fascinating because the truth is stranger than the fiction. At least that's been my experience.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -Hunter S. Thompson --------Uh, having had this sort of roundtable discussion for a long time many of us are of the mind that since religions and their followings, including ourselves, are inhabited by beings who are somehow needy, that they all therefore are basically whack (neurotic) at the outset, so all religious groups will be even more trying and tiresome than ones own family. I mean, I don't really have any agenda at FFLife so much but to emote and hear some familiar voices of spiritual people so we are maybe here for same reasons, maybe different. At any rate Vaj, you have done much to increase the spiritual vocabulary here. I personally at this late date try not to dunk Maharishi since that would be tantamount to declaring myself a total idiot, since I spent so much time involved in it and liking it. I said all I ever needed to when I freaked out about TMO and posted my diatribe on AMT. I was also such a vocal opponent of Maharishi in his last years. Though I don't do TM anymore I still was born out of it anew. I later forgave what I felt of Maharishi's shortcomings instead marvelling that at least one human was loudly making some noise for some sort of positive -through mystical- change. In my mind I remember talking to George Harrison about Maharishi and the set lights outside looked like the foam spray off of a waterfall as it shown down through a slice in the the paper darkened movie set behind him and he was holding his long sandalwood mala and so now I am flashing on Maharishi, a waterfall, a sandalwood mala, a beatle, a pure and powerful mystical time on Earth. that's what Maharishi meant. A beam of Jaya Guru Deva off into deep space thanks to NASA. Even Jesus didn't get that. What M means to me now. He was something like the LSD trials But lately though I am just thankful for any spiritual people of mystical pursuasions anywhere to talk to. They being very rare in this world. The early Eastern gurus burning up alot of freely given Western good will as they have done. So I am wasting time helplessly unable to get my day started. But here goes. Personally though I see no hope for the blending of science and spirituality and in fact it can only lead to disaster through bigotry. This was my main problem with Hindutva in general, the fascism. Thus my joining Vajra clan. Buddhists cannot be fascist. It is not allowed. It is not a possibility. Of course they can be bigoted and opinionated, but not fascist.
