--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > below > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: > > > > Hey thanks for responding Edg. Your POV seems much more calculated as > a parental act towards Kirk than Alex's to me. > > Okay, once again, you come at me with "turn it around, Byron Katie" > thingy. Nice.
Never read him, it was just obvious. <snip> <I'm not cutting you a break, I really believe you > have a kind heart, and I try to see that heart when I'm not jiggy with> your > concepts.> Love back at ya man. I feel the same way about you and your posts. It allows us to really dig in while maintaining rapport. Much appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > below > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > > j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Come on Edg, Alex shows a bit of kindness and you question it? > WTF?? > > > > > > > Curtis, > > > > > > Hey, I was just sayin'. Miss not that I think Alex is a fine human > > > being, and that he's doing us all a big service by helping Rick with > > > FFL. > > > > > > I guess I should have told Alex that I, too, was worried about Kirk > > > overposting, and I was crossing my fingers and hoping he'd control > > > himself -- cuz, more than once, he's quit FFL after having been > banned, > > > and if he flits off in a snit, that would be a loss for all of us. > > > > > > So, again, it's not Alex's heart's desire that I disagree with. I > > > wanted to protect Kirk too, but my desire extends to letting Kirk > fail. > > > When my kids first started walking, I had to let them practice > without > > > my holding their hands. They fell many times, but each time was a > > > learning experience. > > > > > > And, fuck, Kirk's a growed up man for crissakes. > > > > > > If he wants to overpost for any reason or by mistake, it's his life > to > > > run and bear the consequences. In fact, since Kirk has been banned > here > > > from time to time, we all get to see how stellar his soul is by the > fact > > > that he comes back here and subjects himself to the rules once > again. > > > If I were banned and thought of the rules being as unwise as I > believe > > > Kirk thinks of them, I strongly doubt I would have the strength of > > > character that Kirk has -- I wouldn't be coming back. My bad, but > my > > > bad underline's Kirk's bigass modeling for us....a modeling that > only > > > happens when Kirk "fails our rules." > > > > > > I think the most Alex should do is what he actually did at first -- > warn > > > Kirk about the limits. Even that is "too parental" if Alex doesn't > warn > > > others in the same way. > > > > > > Kirk's a neat guy, and I would suspect he'll come out with a "no > skin > > > off my nose" statement and tell us he wasn't bothered by the "velvet > > > handcuffing." > > > > > > But, growed up folks are nutured by tough love and "exceptions to > the > > > rules made for the sake of a lesser endowed person" should be very > very > > > rare. > > > > > > I would be insulted if Alex did this "favor" for me. I'd be > embarrassed > > > to get any special treatment, and I would take it that this was a > > > negative judgement that I was a mental cripple of some sort. > > > > > > So, yeah, I elbowed Alex, and we got to see Alex's response. And, > > > that's what Kirk deserves -- we get to see what he does if we elbow > him > > > off of FFL for a week. Adult stuff, see? > > > > > > Edg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, was that a moral act? > > > > > > > > > > It was according to my moral compass. Others may differ. > > > > > > > > > > > Where's your sense of "The Prime Directive?" Must not we > allow > > > > > > Kirk the right to "fail" our posting rules? > > > > > > > > > > FFL is not the fictional Star Trek universe. > > > > > > > > > > > Seems to me you did him a wrong by some sort of unauthorized > > > > > > "parenting." > > > > > > > > > > And, maybe I did him a right. > > > > > > > > > > > And, hey, do I get the same oversight by you? > > > > > > > > > > It would depend on the circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > If not, then you're kinda saying, "Kirk's not responsible for > > > > > > his actions, and we have to 'contain' him for his own good." > > > > > > > > > > That's basically true. I had a very strong feeling that he would > > > overpost, and considering the crummy space he's been in lately, I > > > intervened. > > > > > > > > > > > To me, whenever Kirk goes over the limit, I cringe, cuz I like > > > > > > the dude's stuff, but I think he deserves the right to see > what > > > > > > his mind comes up with when he's banned for a week. I'd > rather > > > > > > see him banned and come to terms with that reality than see > him > > > > > > "controlled by Alex" -- and, please note, I think you think > you > > > > > > did him a favor, so your intentions are not the focus here. > > > > > > > > > > Your opinion is duly noted. Frankly, though, I'm more interested > in > > > hearing how Kirk feels about this. And, if he doesn't want to waste > a > > > post on meta stuff, he should email me privately. > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" > <kirk_bernhardt@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you do that again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Mods ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kirk, I admit I was keeping an eye on your post count, and > when > > > I saw that you had hit 50, I killed your posting privileges until > 7pm > > > Friday because I *really* didn't want to see you booted off for a > week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, tomorrow I and my longtime friend and erstwhile > cooking > > > partner > > > > > > > > > Darren Housey of Lakeview, Louisiana, will be trying out > for > > > a New Orleans > > > > > > > > > based cooking show for Food Network. Please wish us > luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >