--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> below
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Hey thanks for responding Edg.  Your POV seems much more calculated as
> a parental act towards Kirk than Alex's to me.
> 
> Okay, once again, you come at me with "turn it around, Byron Katie"
> thingy.  Nice.

Never read him, it was just obvious.


<snip> 

<I'm not cutting you a break, I really believe you
> have a kind heart, and I try to see that heart when I'm not jiggy with> your 
> concepts.>

Love back at ya man.  I feel the same way about you and your posts.  It allows 
us to really dig in while maintaining rapport. Much appreciated.  


> 
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > below
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > > j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Come on Edg, Alex shows a bit of kindness and you question it? 
> WTF??
> > > >
> > > Curtis,
> > >
> > > Hey, I was just sayin'.  Miss not that I think Alex is a fine human
> > > being, and that he's doing us all a big service by helping Rick with
> > > FFL.
> > >
> > > I guess I should have told Alex that I, too, was worried about Kirk
> > > overposting, and I was crossing my fingers and hoping he'd control
> > > himself -- cuz, more than once, he's quit FFL after having been
> banned,
> > > and if he flits off in a snit, that would be a loss for all of us.
> > >
> > > So, again, it's not Alex's heart's desire that I disagree with.  I
> > > wanted to protect Kirk  too, but my desire extends to letting Kirk
> fail.
> > > When my kids first started walking, I had to let them practice
> without
> > > my holding their hands.  They fell many times, but each time was a
> > > learning experience.
> > >
> > > And, fuck, Kirk's a growed up man for crissakes.
> > >
> > > If he wants to overpost for any reason or by mistake, it's his life
> to
> > > run and bear the consequences.  In fact, since Kirk has been banned
> here
> > > from time to time, we all get to see how stellar his soul is by the
> fact
> > > that he comes back here and subjects himself to the rules once
> again.
> > > If I were banned and thought of the rules being as unwise as I
> believe
> > > Kirk thinks of them, I strongly doubt I would have the strength of
> > > character that Kirk has -- I wouldn't be coming back.  My bad, but
> my
> > > bad underline's Kirk's bigass modeling for us....a modeling that
> only
> > > happens when Kirk "fails our rules."
> > >
> > > I think the most Alex should do is what he actually did at first --
> warn
> > > Kirk about the limits.  Even that is "too parental" if Alex doesn't
> warn
> > > others in the same way.
> > >
> > > Kirk's a neat guy,  and I would suspect he'll come out with a "no
> skin
> > > off my nose" statement and tell us he wasn't bothered by the "velvet
> > > handcuffing."
> > >
> > > But, growed up folks are nutured by tough love and "exceptions to
> the
> > > rules made for the sake of a lesser endowed person" should be very
> very
> > > rare.
> > >
> > > I would be insulted if Alex did this "favor" for me. I'd be
> embarrassed
> > > to get any special treatment, and I would take it that this was a
> > > negative judgement that I was a mental cripple of some sort.
> > >
> > > So, yeah, I elbowed Alex, and we got to see Alex's response.  And,
> > > that's what Kirk deserves -- we get to see what he does if we elbow
> him
> > > off of FFL for a week.  Adult stuff, see?
> > >
> > > Edg
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alex,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Um, was that a moral act?
> > > > >
> > > > > It was according to my moral compass. Others may differ.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Where's your sense of "The Prime Directive?"  Must not we
> allow
> > > > > > Kirk the right to "fail" our posting rules?
> > > > >
> > > > > FFL is not the fictional Star Trek universe.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Seems to me you did him a wrong by some sort of unauthorized
> > > > > > "parenting."
> > > > >
> > > > > And, maybe I did him a right.
> > > > >
> > > > > > And, hey, do I get the same oversight by you?
> > > > >
> > > > > It would depend on the circumstances.
> > > > >
> > > > > > If not, then you're kinda saying, "Kirk's not responsible for
> > > > > > his actions, and we have to 'contain' him for his own good."
> > > > >
> > > > > That's basically true. I had a very strong feeling that he would
> > > overpost, and considering the crummy space he's been in lately, I
> > > intervened.
> > > > >
> > > > > > To me, whenever Kirk goes over the limit, I cringe, cuz I like
> > > > > > the dude's stuff, but I think he deserves the right to see
> what
> > > > > > his mind comes up with when he's banned for a week.  I'd
> rather
> > > > > > see him banned and come to terms with that reality than see
> him
> > > > > > "controlled by Alex" -- and, please note, I think you think
> you
> > > > > > did him a favor, so your intentions are not the focus here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your opinion is duly noted. Frankly, though, I'm more interested
> in
> > > hearing how Kirk feels about this. And, if he doesn't want to waste
> a
> > > post on meta stuff, he should email me privately.
> > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk"
> <kirk_bernhardt@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  How do you do that again?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks Mods ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kirk, I admit I was keeping an eye on your post count, and
> when
> > > I saw that you had hit 50, I killed your posting privileges until
> 7pm
> > > Friday because I *really* didn't want to see you booted off for a
> week.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BTW, tomorrow I and my longtime friend and erstwhile
> cooking
> > > partner
> > > > > > > > > Darren Housey of Lakeview, Louisiana, will be trying out
> for
> > > a New Orleans
> > > > > > > > > based cooking show for Food Network. Please wish us
> luck.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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