--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > off_world_beings wrote: > > It sounds like teaching is not your dharma. > > Off, > > I have degrees in Education from Wayne State University, and University of California. > > I went to over ten jyotishis that proclaimed my dharma was teaching and preaching.>>
Jyotish is fickle. > I'm inclined to feel validated by the above. Not that it's a gimme. > > Glad that you had kids who didn't act out. Lucky you, sez me. > > I taught school in inner city Detroit, in rich suburbs, at MSAE, and I taught individual children in the TM center. I had knives pulled on me, had parents as disconnected as zombies, had smarmy high-hatting parents, had everything across the spectrum>> Sounds like you have bad karma when it comes to teaching (even if it is your dharma.) > How many weeks of quiet time will it take for the average kid to chuck it for lack of obvious results? Not much time at all IMO.>> Your opinion is not in question here. Opinions cannot be questioned, because that is all they are -- opinions. That's the whole point of opinions, you can say whatever you want. All that is in question is -- is your opinion considered valid scientific analysis?... and firstly, the answer to that is "no", whilst secondly, your opinion is at odds with the published research. > > In fact, any kid who participates will run the risk of being called "mental" by the typical shithead miscreant kids that all schools must endure.> Any kid runs the risk ofbeing called "mental" by the typical shithead miscreant kids that all schools must endure -- for almost any reason. Your point actually suggests your lack of understanding of schooling and kids in general. Kids are called all sorts of things for all sorts of reasons - but, if the kid is stronger inside, it will not matter as much. Kids are smarter than you think. > > Of the 2,000 people I taught, I often saw folks who paid good money for TM instruction quit within a week and never even come back for their 10 day checking even. All the persons I taught for free (not many but some who were in deep poverty) gave up TM -- if anything -- even sooner. So much for gratitude, eh?>> And David Lynch, Richard Baranson, Paul McCartney, Gerry Seinfeld, George Harrison, and MANY people I have met, have continued to meditate for decades without hardly being involved with the movement. I had a tennant and co-worker last year, who was my tennant, co-worker, and friend, many months before I found out he had been TM-meditating for 30 years. Your anecdotal 'statistics' are bum. > > Charlie Lutes always made fun of those who thought that they would run away and just meditate in a cave somewhere. Why? Charlie said: "There has to be something that keeps you in the cave.">> Who cares about caves? -- No-one. > > Kids are not going to easily find "that something" that is necessary to keep them inside their "cave minds." The ones that do resonate with the quiet time will be precious, but not plentiful.>> Then you make the massive and uncertain, but palusible, assumption, that there is no (zero) rise in consciousness in the world (by whatever source) -- which I think is not only an irrational assumption, but in addition, the alternative is HELL on Earth, in which case -- good luck wit' that. Rise in consciousness is fueling this endeavor and the kids and adults that learn today, ARE NOT the species that learned yesterday. This IS the transition phase. OffWorld > > Edg > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , off_world_beings <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > , Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Not many times, but enough, I was a substitute teacher at MSAE, and I > > never had a classroom do group meditation in any manner that even > > remotely looks like "quiet time." > > > > > > I don't know if they've finally "fixed this" at MSAE, but when I was > > there, kids would be fucking off all during group meditation -- to the > > point of laughing aloud, never closing their eyes, tossing notes to each > > other, speaking to each other, and being haughty about it when I made > > eye contact with them to "brow beat them into closing their eyes.">> > > > > > > It sounds like teaching is not your dharma. I substitute taught in > > public schools (midldle and high school) and at MSAE. I almost never had > > any kid disrupt the class in any significant way. The old cliche about > > kids getting carzy with substitute teachers just did not appply in my > > case. I was kindof surprised by that in the beginning, but then it kept > > happening in different schools in different parts of the country. The > > MSAE kids were just as well behaved as the public school kids with the > > wide range of diverse personlalities that I love so much about teaching. > > > > OffWorld > > >
