--- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <r...@...> wrote: > > > From: dhamiltony2k5 > > > > Hi, I come as a meditator to FFL. > > > > Dear Rick, would make for a better discussion here with a > > new change to the FFL guidelines: > > > > Let's have posts to FFL start with concise declaratorys, > > like either one that starts: "Hi, I come to FFL as a > > meditator." Or a second one that starts: "Hi, I come to > > FFL as a non-meditator." > > > > Would just be more honest about what folks are and where > > they are writing from. I'd like to see our FFL guidelines > > require that folks who are writing here start either by > > declaring that they are meditators or start their posts > > admitting that they are non-meditators. > > > > Transparency seems is a progressive theme of these times. > > Let's be more transparent here too. > > > > Jai Guru Dev, > > -Doug in FF > > I still think you're spoofing.
Hi...my name is Unc, and I come to FFL as a button-pusher and a troublemaker. For the record, I think Doug is spoofing, too. And it's an interesting button-pushing act, especially for the lurkers who, having read about the DLF concert and TM, come here to find out what TM is all about. Because this *IS* what the TM lifestyle is all about for many. TMers who want to go on courses or "fly" in the domes put up with what Doug is suggesting *every day*. They think nothing of signing legal contracts saying that they are TM meditators and not one of those nasty "non-meditators." People talk openly in Fairfield about "townies" and "Rus" and in other TM communities and care- fully don't mix with the "wrong kind." Posters like Nabby write openly about how non-meditators are lesser than he is and probably (especially if they are like you, Rick) affiliated either with the CIA or Satan or both. Clearly, the belief system that Doug is parody- ing EXISTS. He's not making it up. > I don't see meditation practice as any certain indicator > of one's perspective, spiritual, political or whatever. Neither do I and, I suspect, neither does Doug. But *pretending* he does draws hypocrites out of the woodwork who live their everyday lives believing *exactly* what he's saying about the inherent superiority of meditators, decrying him for stating openly for what they believe themselves in secret. I do agree with folks who have suggested that he keeps these little put-ons going on for too long, past their expiration date as humor or effective satire, but they're interesting. Me, I just riffed on this latest one as if it were serious to invent my own "sub-classes" of the "meditator" group, and had fun with it. Others don't seem to be having as much fun. > Think of the 30-40 year meditators you know. They're all > over the map. Life FF itself, FFL is open to all, whatever > they practice or don't practice. Their perspective will > become obvious soon enough if they post regularly. No > need to declare it at the outset. And that perspective has nothing to do with whether they meditate regularly or not. You've got yer 30-40 year meditators here who live to see the people they loathe "humiliated in public," and in the next post dump on the Dalai Lama for acting compassionately towards someone they want to see so humiliated. And you've got yer folks who don't meditate at all who occasionally present a pretty good picture of what an "evolved" human being might really be. Doug's point seems to be that the "meditator" vs. "non-meditator" classification is as silly and as elitist as the Indian caste system, and as meaningless. *Except* as an indicator of closet elitism. For that purpose, it's an excellent button-pusher. He's not serious IMO. Hell, putting such a "rule" in the FFL guidelines would open the door for other such rules. For example, someone might pro- pose a rule that posters who claim to be women prove their female status...and we'd lose at least one regular poster right there. And such madness would escalate. Someone would propose a rule that posters to FFL who have firmly established them- selves as consistent TMO apologists prove that they still had a spark of humanity left in them, and we'd lose the whole lot of them. Better to just let sleeping hypocrites lie, IMO.
