--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Premanand Paul Mason wrote:
> > 
> > So the assumption that by transcending 
> > one becomes incapable of error 
> > of judgement is non-science
> 
> Right. Assumption *is* non-science. But there's plenty 
> of science available on which to base understandings.
> 
> I'm thinking of the five or six studies the Nidiches 
> published in peer-reviewed journals (I believe they 
> were) demonstrating that TMers score higher on tests 
> of moral development than did people who studied 
> for the tests.
> 
> > and we ought 
> > to rely on better methods to 
> > determine whether we are right or not. 
> 
> Better methods such as the studies cited above?

Well, it seems to me that all that the study as
you described it would indicate is that TMers 
do well at complying with societal standards
for morality.  That is what any test of "moral
development" would have to be based upon, right?

Societal standards for morality might not neces-
sarily have anything to do with genuine ethics.  
Remember the things that were considered not only
moral but praiseworthy in the time of the Inqui-
sition?  Torturing people to death to save their
souls was *completely* moral in that period.  Was
it ethical?

> > Else we become fundamentalists 
> > who can do and say nothing that is out of key.
> 
> Fairifield Life has done a pretty thorough job of 
> investigating TMers' True Beliefs and exploding 
> the fundamentalism in them. That's one reason 
> I'm here. But we've yet to really lift a finger when 
> it comes to examing the scientific studies. 

See above, if anyone feels capable of commenting
on the research mentioned.

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