--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Richard M wrote:
> 
> > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >>
> >> We have EEG evidence of Samadhi in Patanjali
> >> yogins, so we know what it looks like. If you can't replicate those
> >> findings in students, I would hope that would be a point of concern
> >
> > Vaj - can you not see the methodological flaw in this? It's circular.
> 
> Since this has been discussed before here, ad nauseum, I did not feel  
> I needed to explain in any detail.
> 
> The statement relies on the assumption that the traditional Patanjali  
> yogins were not lying and that they knew, through their lineal  
> instruction, what that state of consciousness was. However, given  
> that we've now replicated this finding in numerous other yogins, in  
> numerous independent labs, and that the same process now is  
> understood to underlie neuroplastic restructuring of the brain, I  
> have a significant degree of confidence in such statements--or I  
> wouldn't make them.
>

Unlike MMY, and the TM researchers, etc...


L.

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