On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:16 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:
On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Richard M wrote:
--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
We have EEG evidence of Samadhi in Patanjali
yogins, so we know what it looks like. If you can't replicate those
findings in students, I would hope that would be a point of concern
Vaj - can you not see the methodological flaw in this? It's
circular.
Since this has been discussed before here, ad nauseum, I did not feel
I needed to explain in any detail.
The statement relies on the assumption that the traditional Patanjali
yogins were not lying and that they knew, through their lineal
instruction, what that state of consciousness was. However, given
that we've now replicated this finding in numerous other yogins, in
numerous independent labs, and that the same process now is
understood to underlie neuroplastic restructuring of the brain, I
have a significant degree of confidence in such statements--or I
wouldn't make them.
Unlike MMY, and the TM researchers, etc...
Very little confidence in most of their research. I just don't see a
lot of credibility there.
Of course if I heard they were replicating EEG evidence seen in
Patanjali yogins, I'd be very interested--esp. if independent labs
could replicate the findings and the yogins could go into those
states at will. for as long as they desired...
