--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

snip

> 
> I actually visited the site and downloaded the book.
>  I then did a 
> word search on "levitate" and nine references to it
> came up.
> 
> After a cursory reading of several of the
> testimonials, I have 
> concluded that you were the victim of a cult, Unc,
> and that you were 
> both brainwashed and hypnotized.
> 
> You did NOT witness actual levitation.  You
> witnessed a delusion of 
> levitation.

Okay. You are of this opinion. I don't understand all
this anger towards Unc.



> 
> 
> 
> > You aren't interested in what really happened,
> only in
> > what you want to believe happened.  So believe
> that.
> > Believe what you want.  Whatever you believe, it
> doesn't
> > affect me in any way.
> > 
> > Look for proof on your own time.  I am content
> with my
> > personal experience.
> > 
> > Unc
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected],
> "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected],
> "shempmcgurk" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Unc, I am going to snip out what I believe
> to be the 
> irrelevant 
> > > > > parts of your response and leave in the
> parts I want to 
> address.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > Did you experience it only once?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nope.  Many times.  As did most of the
> other students who 
> > > > > > studied with the guy.  I will also
> emphasise, for the 
> record, 
> > > the
> > > > > > word "most."  Some people (10-15) never
> saw anything;
> > > > > > others (1000s over the years, sometimes
> 500 at once) saw
> > > > > > this stuff all the time.  Therefore, it
> would appear to be 
> a 
> > > > > > phenomenon that is not entirely physical,
> and takes place
> > > > > > at least to some extent on subtle physical
> levels.  If 
> you're
> > > > > > asking whether it was ever recorded on
> film, I don't think
> > > > > > so, and I don't know whether it could have
> been.  But it 
> was
> > > > > > neat to witness, both as a phenomenon and
> as a field of
> > > > > > energy to be part of.  The latter was the
> real benefit of 
> > > > > > being around someone who is doing this,
> IMO.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Because some people saw this phenomenon
> and others
> > > > > > in the same room did not, I have my doubts
> that it would
> > > > > > have been captured on videotape.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I will also admit, for the same reasons,
> that there might 
> have
> > > > > > been some kind of psychic siddhi going on,
> in which 
> people's
> > > > > > perceptions were altered to allow them to
> see a phenomenon
> > > > > > that might not have been present on a
> physical level.  But 
> > > > > > there was never any suggestion of what was
> about to happen.
> > > > > > The most he'd ever say was, "Watch."  He
> never said *what*
> > > > > > to watch for, and levitation was only one
> of the siddhis 
> he was
> > > > > > good at, so there was no telling what, if
> anything, was 
> going
> > > > > > to happen.  And yet most of us saw stuff,
> and everyone who 
> > > > > > saw it agreed on what was seen.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now, Unc, let me contrast what you said
> above with what you 
> > > > > originally wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > "I've witnessed real, hanging-ten-in-mid-air
> levitation."
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think you would agree with me when I
> conclude that you 
> have 
> > > NOT 
> > > > > witnessed "real, hinging-ten-in-mid-air
> levitation" as you 
> first 
> > > > > claimed.  
> > > > 
> > > > No, I have.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > No, you didn't.
> > > 
> > > If you HAD, you wouldn't leave open the
> possibility that it may 
> have 
> > > been the result of some other sidhi or that you
> had your doubts 
> that 
> > > it could have been captured on videotape.
> > > 
> > > I think it would have been more properly
> descriptive of you to 
> have 
> > > written that you had witnessed what "looked
> like" levitation and 
> not 
> 
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