> > > Okay. You are of this opinion. I don't understand all
> > > this ang> > 
> > 
> > Let him say: "I witnessed what appeared to me to be levitation", 
> > not 'I witnessed REAL levitation'.
> > 
> > I don't like being bullshitted.
> 
> He experienced that the levitation was real - why not just accept 
> that?

The levitation I and thousands of other people witnessed
*was* real.  We saw it.  We felt it.

Shemp's upset because our experience doesn't match 
his fantasy of what such an experience "should" be like,

For those with more open minds, here's the deal.  What
I experienced was obviously (because not everyone 
saw it) a phenomenon that has at least a partially subjec-
tive aspect to it.  However, *enough* people saw it -- many
of them people off the street with no expectations and no
prior suggestion having been made about what they might
or might not see -- to indicate that something was going on.

There *might* be levitation that extends to the physical 
plane, and which could be recorded by videocameras and
measured by instruments.  I don't know.  I do know what I
experienced, and it was pretty neat.  

I *also* understand the factors that lead some people to
dump on such experiences when they are reported.  Some
of it is rigidity (fear that the world might not actually work the
way they imagine it to).  Some of it is self importance or
group self importance ("If it didn't happen in a TM context
it can't be real").  Some of it in this case is past indoctrination
from a.m.t., where the game is and has been for years for a 
few people to demonize and attempt to discredit the people 
they don't like.

The thing is, this reaction or a similar one would've come
up on ANY forum in which I posted my honest experiences.

The larger question is what someone who HAS experienced
stuff like this should do.  Shemp's advice is that I should lie,
or lay low, and never mention anything about it.  Sorry, but
I don't feel the need to do that, just because someone gets
their rigidity buttons pushed by hearing something that doesn't
jibe with his preconceptions.

Thanks to those of you who could read what I actually wrote,
and react to it, with some semblance of openness.  I wasn't
looking for belief...I've been living with these experiences far
too long to expect that.  But it was pleasant to encounter a
reaction that was more along the lines of, "That's interesting.
I don't necessarily believe it or not believe it, but it's interesting."
That's real progress on Internet forums in my opinion.

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