--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: [...] > > Of course it could be both. ANd I don't see much distinction, if any, since > > MMY also said that CC was required to be stabilized before GC or UC could > > be stabilized. > > > One is effortful, one is effortless. > Well, siddhis practice is only effortful in comparison to TM practice and even that is open to debate...
> One is technically a fabrication, the other is purely spontaneous. That's > actually a HUGE difference, no? > And in my experience, and most others I have talked to, one doesn't "attain" even the "flavor" of a sutra through effort. L.
