--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:51 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > >> [...] > > > >>> One is technically a fabrication, the other is purely spontaneous. That's > >>> actually a HUGE difference, no? > >>> > >> > >> And in my experience, and most others I have talked to, one doesn't > >> "attain" even the "flavor" of a sutra through effort. > >> > > > > To clarify, siddhis attainment is spontaneous, even during sutra practice. > > No - all siddhi practice require some effort. > > > Otherwise there would never be siddhi. > > > > In fact, I'd say you could make a case that they are more spontaneous than > > if you decided to perform one outside sutra practice. > > That's still a fabricated-spontaneity. > > > Fabricated spontaneity is still fabricated. >
So setting oneself up to hop around is fabricated and therefore not spontaneous. OK. fine lines there, you must admit.
