--- In [email protected], Denise Evans <dmevans365@...> wrote: > > Well, I do not pretend to have achieved the simplicity of this goal...so perhaps an "existential leap" is required...I have been focused on observing my interactions with the rest of the world and slowing my reactions of late. Sounds good. > It is true that I have been reading (to much amusement) many of the posts on this site and I must say that, in some threads, it seems there is much discussion that is mired in debating the semantics of choice for the respective commenters - it reminds me that our brain/ego tends to overcomplicate in its desire to be recognized and then the core message is lost in the distraction of the words. Right again. > Did you visit Amma this year in Iowa and what did you come away with? > I visited Amma in the Bay area and LA, I will be in Boston as well. It's just a love affair with Ammachi now, a true lover doesn't care for any acknowledgement from his beloved, it's all about giving and sharing my love, I have everything I need now.
> > --- On Mon, 6/27/11, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: > > From: Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, June 27, 2011, 7:51 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Denise Evans dmevans365@ wrote: > > > > Snip: ÃÂ "Enlightenment is just being oneself, a state of absolute self-love (narcissism as Barry would say) that then extends outwards, the unique expression of divine, the divine admiring its own creation in its unique limited localized manifestation and then all individuals are part of this whole. " > > So, enlightenment is "self-love" extended to others. ÃÂ (True self-love is not narcissism - narcissism is based on development of a false self to cover up and protect one's real self). ÃÂ > > Loving self, others, and living in the moment. ÃÂ Doesn't seem too complicated. > >Â > Yes indeed doesn't seem too complicated Denise but it really requires an existential leap to reach this simple utterly relaxed state, at least for me. > I realized I had collected so much neurosis, from the society, that I need to be a millionaire with a million dollar wife, million dollar kids and a million dollar car and house to be happy. That I needed to be a model citizen, a model parent, a model child, that I needed to help someone, help suffering people in Sudan, that I had to be a Gandhi, had to be a Teresa, that I had to million things in order to feel happy. > To achieve this state, this state where you don't need to do anything, you don't owe anyone anything, to feel that every moment the existence is in a blissful orgasm with you, that the existence is somehow incomplete with you, this state truly requires an existential leap. >
