--- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > So you keep talking about Maharishi in great analysis and detail to keep > > > from thinking about how Lenz fucked up your head and heart? > > > > > > That's what it looks like. Freddy was exceptionally gifted and insecure. > > > Probably suffering parental rejection, so he got together a few of you > > > and made sure HE was the boss, HE was the Guru. You kissed HIS butt, but > > > you get the picture- you lived it. Now instead of coming to grips with > > > it, you deflect everything about Lenz onto Maharishi. > > > > > > Free clue: Grow a pair and start living in the present and/or see a > > > therapist about the Lenz shit and clear yourself out. Its kind of > > > pathetic to see you in this state, all blind to it and misguidedly > > > throwing all of your pain on Maharishi. After all, Lenz was the mentally > > > ill one, the crazy one, the one you can't grow past even now. > > The day? Organizationally? Turqb, it was in the Spring of '77 on a day > > when the whole TM teaching organization got overturned by Maharishi at the > > end of a huge governor (siddhis) training course in Switzerland. As the > > Maharishi was preparing to dis-band the course and have people (many of the > > active teaching organization at the time) go home, things changed from that > > point. Before this the organizational evaluation of how the movement was > > doing was in how the new initiations of new meditators were doing and also > > in the numbers of mediators coming to residence courses. In a meeting the > > whole hierarchical order of the teaching organization was sorted, turned > > out and replaced by 'teams' of teachers with Bevan, Neil and the Wilsons on > > top and everyone else spun off. After this re-organization happened the > > evaluation shifted over to being in the numbers of people going to group > > practice of the Siddhis. From this it then became about the numbers in > > group practice of TM-siddhis. The teaching organization and that program > > got lost from then. The physics discussion around the Meissner Effect had > > preceded that time. > > > > I was there and got to witness this happen. It was a time. > > > > -Buck > > > That's right, all that happened and for a good reason. Maharishi wanted, and > got, a new direction towards changing not only the individual- but the world > vonsciousness. One could sense that he thought it was time to take a major > leap forwards in changing to world. He no longer had time, or wanted, to see > people one by one, he wanted groups - large groups. > Without this turn Maharishi could not have been able to prevent the WWII in > 1979 which is now a well documented effect of the Fehmarn course 78/80. This > would obviously not have been possible with focussing on the individual. > > Also Muktananda acknowledged this when he gave a talk in Seelisberg saying > that while he himself had a few students whom he took care of, Maharishi took > care of the whole world. He congratulated the Sidhas and Governors for their > courage of being alone without regularily seeing their Teacher and called us > "brave". > > He also said: "Stay on Maharishi's ship. He will bring you safe across the > ocean." > > The whiners and TM-bashers on this forum mainly consists of fainthearted > fools who never understood this simple point. >
A footnote here; Muktananda gave this speech before the TMO had Sidhas and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment. I should have called them meditators. But Muktananda was quite good at foreseing the future :-)
