--- In [email protected], nablusoss1008 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote: > > > > > > So you keep talking about Maharishi in great analysis and detail to keep > > > from thinking about how Lenz fucked up your head and heart? > > > > > > That's what it looks like. Freddy was exceptionally gifted and insecure. > > > Probably suffering parental rejection, so he got together a few of you > > > and made sure HE was the boss, HE was the Guru. You kissed HIS butt, but > > > you get the picture- you lived it. Now instead of coming to grips with > > > it, you deflect everything about Lenz onto Maharishi. > > > > > > Free clue: Grow a pair and start living in the present and/or see a > > > therapist about the Lenz shit and clear yourself out. Its kind of > > > pathetic to see you in this state, all blind to it and misguidedly > > > throwing all of your pain on Maharishi. After all, Lenz was the mentally > > > ill one, the crazy one, the one you can't grow past even now. > > The day? Organizationally? Turqb, it was in the Spring of '77 on a day > > when the whole TM teaching organization got overturned by Maharishi at the > > end of a huge governor (siddhis) training course in Switzerland. As the > > Maharishi was preparing to dis-band the course and have people (many of the > > active teaching organization at the time) go home, things changed from that > > point. Before this the organizational evaluation of how the movement was > > doing was in how the new initiations of new meditators were doing and also > > in the numbers of mediators coming to residence courses. In a meeting the > > whole hierarchical order of the teaching organization was sorted, turned > > out and replaced by 'teams' of teachers with Bevan, Neil and the Wilsons on > > top and everyone else spun off. After this re-organization happened the > > evaluation shifted over to being in the numbers of people going to group > > practice of the Siddhis. From this it then became about the numbers in > > group practice of TM-siddhis. The teaching organization and that program > > got lost from then. The physics discussion around the Meissner Effect had > > preceded that time. > > > > I was there and got to witness this happen. It was a time. > > > > -Buck > > > That's right, all that happened and for a good reason. Maharishi wanted, and > got, a new direction towards changing not only the individual- but the world > vonsciousness. One could sense that he thought it was time to take a major > leap forwards in changing to world. He no longer had time, or wanted, to see > people one by one, he wanted groups - large groups. > Without this turn Maharishi could not have been able to prevent the WWII in > 1979 which is now a well documented effect of the Fehmarn course 78/80. This > would obviously not have been possible with focussing on the individual. > > Also Muktananda acknowledged this when he gave a talk in Seelisberg saying > that while he himself had a few students whom he took care of, Maharishi took > care of the whole world. He congratulated the Sidhas and Governors for their > courage of being alone without regularily seeing their Teacher and called us > "brave". > > He also said: "Stay on Maharishi's ship. He will bring you safe across the > ocean." > > The whiners and TM-bashers on this forum mainly consists of fainthearted > fools who never understood this simple point. >
nablusoss, that does have a truth to it. But, Nankashore? He was featured in that 'David' movie. They showed the pulling of the plug on him in the movie. What has become of Nankashore now, post-Maharishi? Does he give TM satsang? In india? Could he visit Fairfield sometime? He was always genuine. 'twould be nice to hear him reminisce. Would be nice to hear him teach. He is kind of of that Jerry Jarvis generation of TM. What was his relationship to Maharishi? Did he have family relationship in some way? Or, was just around long-term. Does he go back to Guru Dev days? Apparently he held the purse strings for a long time and was the one who made things happen. Was he not family in the end? Just wondering, -Buck in FF
