--- In [email protected], "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Emily I think the main cult characteristics are thinking
> > > > > the cult and its leader are almost all positive.  AND what
> > > > > I've come to think is an even more telling indicator of 
> > > > > cultishness,  thinking that those who don't agree with the
> > > > > cult and its leader are almost all negative.  So when the
> > > > > writing of a FFL person expresses such extremely polarized 
> > > > > thinking, then I think that person is fundamentally aligned
> > > > > with the group I've been calling wts.
> > > > 
> > > > There is no such thing as "wts" as you originally defined
> > > > it: "CULT DYNAMICS ARE CURRENTLY HAPPENING ON FFL IN wts.
> > > > What I see here on FFL around Robin is a mini and cyber
> > > > version of WTS, what I think of as wts."
> > > > 
> > > > This was and is absolutely the worst kind of bullshit, SICK
> > > > bullshit, PERVERTED bullshit.
> > > 
> > > Are you in the same ward as Ravi?
> > 
> > Translation: I can't come up with anything to rebut
> > Judy's reasoned deconstruction below of Share's nitwittery,
> > so I'll just sling an insult right up at the top and
> > pretend I've handled it.
> 
> I'm not trying to handle it, I'm just pointing out that
> you appear to have gone mad. "bullshit, SICK  bullshit, 
> PERVERTED bullshit." Doesn't sound all that reasoned to me.
> You should calm down, learn to meditate or something.

I think you make a very good point here Salyavin. I feel almost as if we can 
(and maybe should) renew our conversation from the weekend. It was most helpful 
to me. What you say here of course is apposite, but what is missing is some way 
to show authfriend she has options--Share is a little much for her, I think. 
She is finding Share challenging--so she has lost control of her reason--She 
often does that. Me, I am going to try to get her address and send her a 
Christmas card--I have a feeling she is going to be very lonely over 
Christmas--And doesn't that just about sum the whole thing up? It does for me. 
I like you, Salyavin; especially when you divine the secrets of the human soul. 
Well, you did in my case--but I think you really may be onto something here 
with authfriend. I say: Tea and crumpets all around!

 
 
  
> > > > Now let's look at some more of your bullshit:
> > > > 
> > > > > For example, Judy has labeled me the most toxic person
> > > > 
> > > > Liar. I said you were the most toxic person *I* had ever
> > > > encountered. But you deliberately left that part off to
> > > > make it sound more extreme than it was.
> > > > 
> > > > > AND labeled Robin's WTS intentions the absolute highest
> > > > > and purest. I think these phrases indicate extremely
> > > > > polarized thinking as expressed by the use of verbal
> > > > > superlatives.
> > > > 
> > > > And here's another: This is TOTAL bullshit from you,
> > > > Share. It makes no sense. It isn't even remotely logical.
> > > > Everybody engages in what you're calling "polarized
> > > > thinking"--INCLUDING YOU--when it seems appropriate. If
> > > > it *is* appropriate, there's not a thing wrong with it.
> > > > It's just one of the ways people express themselves.
> > > > 
> > > > That I think Robin's intentions were of the highest and
> > > > purest when he was leading WTS (along with the
> > > > intentions of his followers) does not mean I think Robin
> > > > was or is somehow a perfect human being.
> > > > 
> > > > But that is the SICK, PERVERTED way you're interpreting
> > > > what I said. THAT is "polarized thinking" that is 
> > > > INAPPROPRIATE.
> > > > 
> > > > > The problem with such extremely polarized thinking IMO is
> > > > > that it totally misses an essential truth about us human
> > > > > beings, which is that we are all a mix of positive and
> > > > > negative and that most of us are mostly positive with a a
> > > > > glitch or two thrown in to keep us embodied and growing.
> > > > > And some of us have more and or bigger glitches.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, show us where any of those you've accused of being
> > > > cultists have ever thought that we are not all a mix of
> > > > positive and negative.
> > > > 
> > > > You can't. You're just mouthing psychobabble you've
> > > > picked up from one of your many, many "healers." It's
> > > > bullshit. And a non sequitur.
> > > > 
> > > > > Another essential truth is that we humans are going to make
> > > > > mistakes whether our glitches are big or little, few or many.
> > > > 
> > > > DUH. Of course nobody here ever said otherwise. Non sequitur.
> > > > 
> > > > > In regards to this I have also noticed that a big feature
> > > > > of extremely polarized thinking is that it does not allow
> > > > > for making mistakes, learning from them and forgiveness.
> > > > > This too I think is very harmful.
> > > > 
> > > > This may be, but you haven't seen anything like it here.
> > > > Another non sequitur.
> > > > 
> > > > > As far as I'm concerned it's up to you to decide if you're
> > > > > a member of wts.
> > > > 
> > > > No, sorry, there's no such thing as "wts" for us to decide
> > > > about. It's a fantasy you created because you had fucked
> > > > up and had to find something to use to beat up on the people
> > > > who had pointed out your fuck-ups to you.
> > > > 
> > > > > I'm only weighing in on this because you and others are
> > > > > STILL bringing it up!
> > > > 
> > > > It's STILL being brought up because YOU can't bring yourself
> > > > to acknowledge it was bullshit.
> > > > 
> > > > > BTW this is another indicator of cultishness IMO because
> > > > > it too has an element of being extreme in its expression.
> > > > 
> > > > No, wrong. Being extreme is not some infallible indicator
> > > > of "cultishness." Nor is bringing up your "wts" bullshit
> > > > "extreme in its expression."
> > > > 
> > > > > Also BTW I keep saying IMO to indicate that I realize what
> > > > > I'm saying is only my opinion based on my observations.
> > > > > Nothing more.
> > > > 
> > > > Except you haven't "observed" what you claim those opinions
> > > > are based on.
> > > > 
> > > > > Of all the wts people I think you're pretty fluid in your 
> > > > > thinking.  But you still are sometimes extreme in the
> > > > > negative direction towards me
> > > > 
> > > > WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CULTISHNESS. Claiming that
> > > > it *does* is your attempt to intimidate into silence those
> > > > who have criticisms of you. It's not working, Share. You
> > > > are a person who provokes other people into very negative
> > > > reactions. *That's* what you need to be thinking about.
> > > > 
> > > > > and towards other non wts people like Barry.
> > > > 
> > > > There are no "wts people," therefore no "non wts people"
> > > > either.
> > > > 
> > > > > Often I think your negativity is expressed cleverly and
> > > > > pseudo playfully.  Nonetheless the extreme negativity
> > > > > underneath is discernible.  And as I say above, this
> > > > > extremely polarized thinking in the negative direction
> > > > > has become for me the clearest indication of someone's
> > > > > being in the group I call wts.
> > > > 
> > > > There is no such group--unless you want to change your
> > > > original definition and call it "people who have criticisms
> > > > of Share."
> > > > 
> > > > If you had even a shred of integrity, you would realize
> > > > this is what your "wts" is and has always been, from the
> > > > time you first dreamed it up.
> > > > 
> > > > > PS  A very recent example of your extremely negative thinking
> > > > > about me:  I made no judgement about Raunchy's grand daughter.
> > > > 
> > > > Emily never said you did, liar.
> > > > 
> > > > > I was expressing an opinion about the BENEFICIAL effect I
> > > > > thought John Newton's work would have on Raunchy and the
> > > > > people in her life.
> > > > 
> > > > You were expressing an incredibly judgmental opinion about
> > > > what a horrible person raunchy is to deprive her
> > > > granddaughter of the magical healing powers of John Newton.
> > > > 
> > > > The most ridiculous post I've ever seen on this forum. And
> > > > that is saying something.
> > > > 
> > > > > IMO both you and Raunchy reached a new low with those posts.
> > > > 
> > > > No, that would be *your* post about raunchy that reached
> > > > a new low. But you continue to come up with lower and lower
> > > > lows. Share, you are out of control.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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