Hi akasha, it's good to know I've been missed. I haven't been able to 
keep up with all the posts on this list because now that my son goes 
to school, I can pursue my new career of sorts (designing knitwear 
patterns for books and magazines). It gives both my left and right 
brain hemispheres a workout.

I haven't gone back through enough posts yet to learn if Kirk was in 
New Orleans and if so, if he's ok?

To me, a lot of 'exotic' dancing is theatre. Nobody worries about the 
self-esteem of an actor who plays socially unacceptable characters, 
even though s/he may be typecast for years after--IOW, be seen by the 
general public as being the character s/he played. A healthy woman 
showing her body, whether paid for it or not, knows she's more than 
her body and more than what others think of her body.

My greatest concern is that the most money girls are able to make is 
by doing sexwork. The assumption is that the great pay is a stepping 
stone for those who don't want to be doing it their whole life--just 
so that she can get out of debt, or finish college, or pay for a 
child's private school or medical treatments. I sure hope the college 
girls I knew who made money this way went on to make more money based 
on their college degree. It is damning of our society if it's the 
easiest way for women to make good money, if we still don't have 
equal pay for equal work in most other areas. But to me, the real 
problem then is not sex, but that women aren't paid enough for other 
kinds of work. 
I haven't heard of ex-sexworkers leaving their careers as lawyers, 
doctors, governors, etc, because they miss the easy cash of sexwork.

--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Hi Vashi, 
> 
> Great to have you back. We have missed you!
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "vashtirama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > akasha, you'd be great in an upper-level feminist studies 
seminar. 
> 
> Gosh, not the graduate seminar? :)  
> 
> > Groups of feminist sex workers have brought up most if not all of 
> > your points; so have lesbians who have their own exotic dancer 
clubs, 
> > publish x-rated magazines for the lesbian community, informed by 
> > lesbian feminist theory.
> 
> Yes, I have read some, trying to find exploitation. I have heard the
> pro arguments. And passed on many in my post. I have yet to read a
> compelling case for exploitation. 
> 
> And I know a few dancers. Girl next door types, smart, vivacious,
> college girls. In talking to them about their jobs, there is not 
much
> hint of exploitation. They are in control, make good money, are
> pursuing their  professional careers via the funding and flexible 
time
> this short term club work provides. And seem quite comfortable with
> themselves, well balanced, flexible, creative. Not that you need to 
be
> a dancer to obtain such, but from what i can see and get to in
> conversations, it has helped them relate to people better, improved
> their conversation and socializing skills, help them oversome social
> shyness in one case, and made them very comfortable in their own
> skins. They have lost prior hang-ups and obsessions with looks.  
> 
> Some girls I am sure don't have the best of experiences as dancers.
> But how were they prior to becoming a dancer?




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