Dear Share - yes a good, natural, logical question on 9th vs 11th. 11th is the last of the airy trine (kaama, desire), its the zenith of the initiative, energy (3rd), desires, relationships (7th) and symbolizes knowledge akin to philosophy. Any intellectual knowledge - philosophy, religion, Science, astrology etc.
Whereas 9th is the last of the fire signs (dharma - one's inclinations, abilities, creative expressions) the culmination of one's self(1st), talents, abilities, creativity (5th) and it symbolizes higher truth, as in religion something tangible. 11th fuels 9th - being 3rd from 9th - so all that intellectual knowledge, philosophy, Science, learning (based on one's inclinations) into their living truth (9th) - which is tangible, measurable - the impact of your expression in the world. I will comment on your chart later when I can focus more. Hope this helps understanding nature and domain of 9th vs 11th. Ravi (with my Pandit hat on) On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > Thank you so much, Ravi. What would you say is the difference between 9th > house, higher learning and 11th house concentrated thought, knowledge? I > have Merc Venus EXACTLY conjunct in early Gemini in 9th, both retrograde, > Sun in mid Gemini, no combustion. Saturn in 10th. Mars Saturn was > difficult. Mars Merc was both lots of humor and lots of conflict. Mars > Ketu began yesterday. Natal Ketu in Libra in first; currently Ketu > transiting natal Rahu in 7th and vice versa. Yowza! > > What do you think of behavioral remedies, such as helping the elderly on > Saturday to strengthen Saturn? > > PS Believe me Punditji, I don't rush to EVERY purveyor. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2013 2:37 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees" > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Ravi Chivukula > <chivukula.r...@gmail.com>wrote: > > "Ravi, FWIW I have Mars in Leo in 11th and am running Mars mahadasa." > > Well dear Share I would definitely need more than that. > > But just focusing on that, Mars is in a good sign and house (Of course an > aspect of Rahu or Saturn will change things) > > Either way, with just that, an unafflicted, unaspected Mars in 11th is > good. A time of much growth, knowledge for you during this time period. > Here Mars is happy, so you will have good energy - dynamic, enterprising > (with due respect to your age, of course). You definitely have been lucky > with significant others in your life - spouse and family support (lord of > 2nd & 7th in 11th), yet Mars natural harshness may have caused trouble with > older siblings (11th). You enjoy places of higher knowledge, you are ready > to perform your role eagerly, serving, helping propagate knowledge (Mars in > 11th/Leo) > > But I would need your chart to be sure. No pressure - you can enjoy what > brief I have here. > > > 11th is concentrated thought, knowledge.Mars is the sprinter, not a > long-distance runner, he is eager, impulsive, active, running helter > skelter. > > This explains your tendency to rush to every purveyor of knowledge, all > the myriad healers, Gurus and gather tid-bits so you can eagerly implement > them. Hope you can understand the pros and cons of it. > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > ** > > Obbajee, astrologic ebbs and flows: Rahu in Mars ruled Aries in 7th so I > get along with younger foreign men. Ex pre fiance is 6 yrs younger, > Canadian, 28 compatability, but with mild kujadosha. SO of 15 years was > Irish born in London and said he should have married me, compatability of > 12, but I was in Moon mahadasa, marriage to weaker person and he was 15 yrs > younger, me unaware cougar. Then he died in a one room flat in Baldock > leaving me to say hi to his photo some but not every morning. I think it's > good to pay attention to Love and love and kujadosha and Rahu Ketu and > compatability number. But also very important IMHO, how do we get along > when we're not getting along. > > Ravi, FWIW I have Mars in Leo in 11th and am running Mars mahadasa. > ------------------------------ > *From:* obbajeeba <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Friday, June 7, 2013 9:42 PM > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees" > > > Wow. I know someone with Rahu in the 7th and gets along well with foreign > women. ..and that attraction thing, they are highly attracted to each > other. hahaha. Maybe it is young love. I think over 3 years is pretty good > for a love couple going strong! > > As for kuja, I must be lucky. I just hate having to wait for love. Quick > somethings are always available, but I do not put my attention on those. > Lucky for me, I get the attracted types who live far away? hahahaha > Maybe the second phase of life will pull them grahas together? > At least I get the, "I should have married you a long time ago when I had > a chance," type statements. haha Better than nothing. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > > > Hey John, I was just reading Edg's post and it reminded me: didn't Ram > have kujadosha? Obbajee, be glad you have kujadosha and not Rahu in > 7th. With that you need to marry someone with same or Ketu there. And > guess what? You probably won't be attracted to them! How's that for one > of God's little jests?! > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: John <jr_esq@...> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 2:56 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FairfieldLife 'Jyotishees" > > > > > > > >  > > Obbajeeba, > > > > Kujadosha means a Mars condition or blemish. The term applies to those > people who have Mars placed in the 1,2,4,7,8, and 12th house of the natal > chart. There are exceptions to this condition which can vary depending on > the jyotish tradition you follow. You should read James Braha's book for a > detailed discussion of this subject. Or, email me and I can give you a link > where you can find it. > > > > This means that 50 percent of all people have this condition. So, it is > practical and advisable to marry someone who has the same condition. > Otherwise, the success for maintaining a marriage relationship will be > drastically reduced. > > > > There are also other factors to be considered for marriage > compatibility. However, IMO the more criteria one uses for compatibility > the lesser the chances of finding anyone for marriage. > > So, the element of love is still the most important factor for getting > married. > > > > JR > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Ravi, When you can comment again once the meany time passes for post > count rules: > > > So, Kuja dosha does not really get canceled? > > > I have been told many times one with kuja dosha should find someone > with kuja dosha. But when I find with Kuja dosha, the significations for > that house make it rather distancing. So cancellation means, "Well you both > have kuja dosha and well they actually do not cancel, but you two will live > far away from each other and there, cancellation." Right? LOL > > > Otherwise kuja dosha person becomes victim to his/her mate. Or their > mate dies early anyways? > > > The more I read on the subject, and the more I see from real life > experiences, Kuja is as Kuja does. > > > Anyone else is more than welcome to step into this spiraling out of > control doomsday fate, I surely would appreciate a better understanding of > this kuja dosha thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > LOL..thanks dear Ann, give me a couple of days. I usually memorize > the > > > > chart in my head and contemplate on it in my free time to make sure > I don't > > > > miss anything. I am slow since I don't do this often. Of course I > can start > > > > talking about it as I see it but then it won't make much sense to > you if I > > > > talk about houses and planets but I will just summarize and do the > detailed > > > > one for the heck of it so you could see my thought process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Ann <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Ann <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > <chivukula.ravi@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well dear Ann - astrologers can get pretty carried away and > come up > > > > > with > > > > > > > > magical theories. In essence, from a purely theoretical > perspective > > > > > one > > > > > > > > can, I can - devoid of all mystical, magical crap, karma, > > > > > reincarnation > > > > > > > > bullshit - come up with a reasonable, logical, analytical > > > > > astrological > > > > > > > > analysis that provides insights into one's strengths, > weaknesses, > > > > > > > > personality. I don't know how it works - but it does and of > course > > > > > it's > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > an exact Science, it's more of an intuitive, analysis since > the > > > > > signs, > > > > > > > > planets have various significations and an intelligent > astrologer > > > > > has to > > > > > > > > put everything in the right perspective. Since you are > skeptical I > > > > > can do > > > > > > > > one for you if you would like and you can measure the > success of the > > > > > > > > reading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ravi, I would love you to do whatever you want to with > me. What > > > > > next? > > > > > > > Need birth dates etc? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes dear Ann - time of birth and place is what's needed. If you > don't > > > > > want > > > > > > to post it here let me know. > > > > > > > > > > No, it's all very good, I would love you to read me. > > > > > Date of birth November 5, 1956. Place: Dunkirk, New York. Time > 8:25 am > > > > > (that is as close in time as I know.) Anything else? My life and > destiny > > > > > are in your hands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
