while I do agree that it is the TMO's prerogative to put whatever bullshit policies inplace they desire, it is typical of them to MAKE the policies bullshit, for example ASSUMING that a visit to another so-called saint MEANS that the perpetrator will ABSOLUTELY be doing something other than TMSP - its also because asses like Bevan and Doug Brix love to lord it over others so they can pretend they are some sort of demi-god like they thought Marshy was.
________________________________ From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodle...@mail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't know, and you don't either, what the rationale behind the not > > > > > some saints policy, is. As much as we enjoy seeing these TMO people > > > > > as a bunch of power hungry bureaucrats, they are also responsible for > > > > > how Maharishi's policies are to be be maintained, or modified. > > > > > > > > > > The TMO is anything but a charismatic organization, left to freewheel > > > > > about the vague sayings of its founder. Maharishi was pretty specific > > > > > about how TM and the TMSP are taught, and practiced. > > > > > > > > > > Obviously some are going to abuse their power, as in any > > > > > organization, though I also recognize the significant > > > > > responsibility those in the TMO feel, to uphold Maharishi's legacy. > > > > > > > > > > I do agree with you that trying to effect change in the Dome > > > > > policies, by writing posts to FFL, will not accomplish much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It will accomplish the opposite. Any TM gov reading these pleas > > > > will conclude you are a bunch of whining, ungrateful, unstressers. > > > > > > > > They will think that all that Marshy did for you is being undermined > > > > by a bunch of selfish, daydreamers who don't know when they are > > > > onto a good thing. The *best* thing. And worse that you are happy > > > > to insist that everybody who sticks to programme rules has to put > > > > up with you bringing in new techniques or your own confused > > > > consciousness into the purity of the domes. > > > > > > > > Get real guys. You either want to be in the TMO or you don't, > > > > you can't make your own rules up about what goes on in Marshy's > > > > house, especially if it's going to annoy other people who are > > > > already inside. Bevan and co are the devoted protectors of what > > > > Marshy taught them, why should they drop their and the guru's > > > > standards just to please you? > > > > > > > > > ....because the money is dwindling? > > > ....because the fulfillment is to create heaven on earth? > > > Looks like a good reasons to me! > > > Has not there been trouble with a large continued donation, recently? > > > Donating a 100 million can start chiseling at the accounting books of > > > billionaires? > > > > If they care more about money than fulfilling Marshy's wishes > > then they will. > > > > Remember, their definition of heaven on earth is the establishment > > of a vedic civilisation (or what their idea of one is) and that > > will only happen with everyone on the programme. This is how they > > think. Well, not think, it's what they were trained to do. It's > > going to be the deepest thing in Bevans life. Not just his job but > > his whole raison d'etre. > > > > > > > > In the UK, if you want to join the community in Skelmersdale > > > > you have to watch a tape where the head of the UK movement > > > > states as clearly as possible that they are quite happy for > > > > people to experiment with other techniques or see other teachers, > > > > just don't do it there. I agree with it, decide which boat > > > > you are in or you'll end up trying to go in two directions at > > > > once. Which never works. > > > > > > > > > > Life is a one way street and all that encompasses this journey and brings > > > happiness to the self and those who you wish around you, this is all the > > > same direction! > > > > Tell them that. As I point out they are happy for you to do > > whatever you want. Somewhere else. > > > > > > > Like saying one should only speak English and not learn Japanese, French, > > > Italian, Hindi?....because it MIGHT confuse a child learning? > > > Math and dance do not coexist? > > > Painting and Poetry are two different mediums of expression, so stick to > > > only one? > > > > Poor analogy. If you were to try speaking English and Japanese at > > the same time you would encounter serious confusion. Which is a good > > analogy of what the TMO think will happen if you mix stuff up in > > the dome - it won't be as effective as just speaking one language. > > > Ah, no. Tell that to my friends who are multilingual and learned at the same > time. Tell that to Rosetta Stone. What common languages all share, helps the > knower with the knowing of the known and that is the reason Latin was useful > in High Schools at one time to help understand where these words share common > meanings. > I can learn better with more than one of anything in front of me! > Explain that? ha OK, it didn't work, the learning two languages analogy* was a metaphor for *mixing* meditation, the TMO think it can't be done without lessening what they consider the ultimate technique. The domes are for one technique only, they is the rules. Mixing stuff up will dilute the purity of the teaching, like doing tae kwondo in a judo class, or *anything* for that matter, and the number one thing TM teachers are taught is to preserve the teaching! I'm telling you it's a dictatorship and the rules aren't made by the people sitting in the domes, they are made by the people who want you to get the best experience in the domes. They think that if your head is full of other teacher's beliefs you might not be doing TM properly, or worse you might tell other people about other paths and before you know it - it's all over. Marshy talked a lot about the knowledge getting lost, this is how it happens. The invincibility appears to be rather fragile. But Bevan and co will do what they think is right to protect Marshy's teachings. I'm telling you all this for information purposes only, I quit working for the TMO ages ago. *And you can't talk two languages *at the same time* without talking gibberish, now can you.
