--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > For the majority of people, what is so rapid about TM > > > other than as a belief system? > > > > Dunno. You find research on other meditation techniques of people > > reporting 24/7 witnessing for years at a time, or breath > > suspension associated with reports of samadhi. > > Your "research" is done by TBs within the org. and published by its > own journals
Er, no, it's mostly published in independent journals, many of them peer-reviewed. TM's research does need to be *replicated* by independent researchers, but TM can't force them to do so. By the same token, the scientific community can't declare TM's research invalid unless independent replication has been attempted and failed. > - every group has stories of its accomplishments and > superiority. Your group's philosophy values subjective experiences > of "witnessing" and breath suspension and so that's what the stories > focus on. Other groups may not value those at all within its > concept of enlightenment. True, but the question here was the basis on which TM claims it fosters rapid growth to higher states of consciousness. You would hardly expect TM to support that claim in terms of some *other* group's criteria that TM did not consider valid. > > The one TM study that clearly meets objective research criteria and > that I think everyone would view as a positive benefit is reduction of > blood pressure. > > There are innumerable studies showing physiological changes associated > with a whole variety of mental practices. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
