--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > snip
> > 
> > >  
> > > Thus, its critical to make the full original dataset
> > > available to
> > > other researchers to test the hypothesis via "their"
> > > approach to model
> > > specification and selection. If a suboptimal
> > > specification were chosen
> > > by the original researchers, because one or two
> > > paramenters shined,
> > > but others sucked, this "illusion" can be uncovered
> > > by indepedendent
> > > analysis and comparision of the results of different
> > > model
> > > specifications -- and the full spectrum of the
> > > relevant parameters and
> > > diagnostics associated with them. Or it may be found
> > > that alternative
> > > model specifications, strong on all levels, produces
> > > a different
> > > conclusion than the original research. This may
> > > indicates something
> > > important is missing in one or both models, and more
> > > analysis is
> > > necessary.
> > 
> > And in good science this discourse goes back and forth
> > with re-analysis of data, arguments for and against
> > stated conclusions and out of this seeming mess really
> > good, scientific advances come about. (On a side note,
> > if you follow the topics in scientific journal
> > articles  it is amusing how rival "camps" all but call
> > each other assholes in their publcations)
> > Unfortunately the TMO is not interersted in having its
> > ME research looked at because they know it is not
> > robust. It's a very faint whisper of pattern in a sea
> > of random noise that can only be seen if you look at
> > it in a very particular way.
> > 
> 
> Yes. 
> 
> Its amusing how some hold that publication in a peer-reviewed 
journal
> is the end-all and be-all of research. Its really an initial 
screening
> for obvious errors. And depending on the status of the journal, the
> degree and depth of review by peers may vary substantially from
> journal to journal. Regardless, publication is the beginning of the
> process, not the end. Its when the real peer review happens: a wider
> audience reads the paper, sends comments and issues to "letters to 
the
> editor", and often quite a tossle of view proceeds. Which 
strengthens
> subsequent analysis. 
> 
> A second level of substantiation of a pulished article is does it
> generate enough interest so that more original research is conducted
> in the topic area. And is the analysis and methodology strong enough
> in the original publication to generate funding for the additional
> research.
> 
> Since the publication of ME research, it has not, to my knowledge,
> generated any non-TMO reasreach or funding. That speaks to the
> strength and credibility of the original research.
>

Please. The PEAR research is far more well-documented than the ME 
research but no-one takes it seriously either. The findings are too 
far outside the paradigm to be attractive to "serious" researchers.

In a strange sense, it's like the proof of Fermat's Last Theorm: it 
proves nothing about anything else and only a handful of people are 
interested in slogging through it.






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