Richard, sometimes, and this is one of those times, it's just how you say
something that cracks me up. Yay!
From: "'Richard J. Williams' [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re:
Non-biological Intelligence)
On 11/14/2014 4:34 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
Not so sure about that. According to the Turq himself he was involved
because it presented plenty of opportunities to pick up broads. Doesn't sound
as if he was into meditation much.
>
The question is, did he enjoy? There must be a better way to pick up broads
than to go on a monk retreat. He said they wouldn't even let him buy an ice
cream cone. He seems to be better suited to a householder life in Amsterdam.
>
---In [email protected], <anartaxius@...> wrote :
Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true, TM was a
total failure. This seems to be a problem with spiritual techniques in
general, that most of the time they fail, if we go by our view of the persons
practising them, and even according what these persons they say to us about
their experiences. Success is rare.
---In [email protected], <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent witnessing,
is that some people collect these experiences, while remaining unchanged,
themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like being a tourist of
higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a bit of the Sat Shree
interview and he says a veil, separating him from the rest of the universe, was
torn open, with no possibility of being repaired. To live Being, silence, and
bliss, is a far different thing, than collecting, "I saw this", and, "this
happened once", and, "for awhile, this other thing happened". Enlightenment is
not an aggregate, a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how
religions get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness.
Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very unsatisfying,
whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that font of creativity and
expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so the mind, when it does act, has
no need to rely on stale and shrinking memories - it can go anywhere it
chooses, or just rest empty, in pure awareness. Once everything is available,
there is no longer a need to collect experiences of any variety, no matter how
tantalizing their memory may be.
---In [email protected], <[email protected]> wrote :
The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five
years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only
a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades
later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy
who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And
that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences
at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony.
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