On 11/17/2014 08:33 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
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This could be a complete shambles - or it could be fantastic.
Phantasmagoria: The Visions of Lewis Carroll is a planned
fantasy-horror film by Marilyn Manson that has been in development
since 2004! Directed by Marilyn Manson it stars Marilyn as Lewis
Carroll, English model Lily Cole as Alice, Evan Rachel Wood as Alice's
alter ego and British actress Tilda Swinton as Lewis Carroll's dream
wife (the real Lewis Carroll never married). The "trailer" is adult
and avant-garde. I hope Marilyn gets to finish it.
Prepare yourself . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsnVN6QnW-4&list=FLJad8vN225Nr5hDIzlEOYMA&index=5
I think I would give this a wide pass. I can tell it's going to be a
loser and I didn't even look at the trailer. Chalk it up to intuition.
*So, I just watched about half of that and I have a few observations
and a few questions.*
*I found myself getting angry watching this. Then I had to ask myself
why was I getting angry? And I realized a couple of things. Although
this thing is truly horrific and some of the images could stay
ingrained your mind for quite some time I have to say, what is the
goddamned point? Do we really lack enough horrific events in everyday
life that we need to recreate more on a big screen and dole it out to
some audience under the guise that this is somehow about Lewis
Carroll? That somehow Marilyn Manson, of all people, has an inside
track on what animated the man? Marilyn Manson is a freak show. If he
feels compelled to spew more ugliness and violence into the world then
he needs a reality check. Ugliness and violence are everywhere - in
you and in me and in every other sentient being that walks the earth -
especially if they are human. A whole lot of the imagery involved
dismembered bodies, female bodies and the sex and the blood and the
implied and also graphic imagery gives voice to a really twisted
vision. There is suggested violence against animals as well. It is not
hard to get a rise out of people, if you want to make a viewer
squeamish or indignant or sick or horrified it is not hard and it is
not art. Sometimes when you see a thing you are also given a visceral
impression, a clear indication that it is best not to allow certain
images/vibrations/content into your body and brain. This appears to be
one of those things. Anybody?*
Line on water for me. Didn't give me much of an indication of where he
wants to go with this but a movie based on the life of Lewis Carroll
could be very compelling. As for horror, I watch movies more horrific
than this. There is a saying by tantrics, "you never know when death
will come and it could come in horrific situations so being prepared for
it is a good idea."
If you want to watch something truly horrific find the Vice YouTube
report on ISIS.