Now you know that's not true - Marshy said Andy Rhymer and Robin Carlsen were enlightened! There, proof positive that enlightenment does not carry decent behavior with it, or more likely proof positive that Marshy was a liar and huckster who would occasionally get caught in his own web of lies. What do you do when some guy stands up in a group and talks experiences that are exactly what the guru said constitutes enlightenment? You say "Oh, yeah, you are enlightened! See proof that my meditation works!" then you bank on the fact that these guys will fade away and people will forget about it. You don't entertain the idea they may be child molesters of whacked out cult leaders to be.
As to Share's assertion that certain groups claim many "enlightened" members, if one takes Marshy's definition especially of enlightenment, there should be obvious signs of "many enlightened" people from the absolute support of nature these people would be getting, plus the waves of amazing vibes they should be giving off - in short, it is a big fat fantasy on the part of the certificate holders and a blatant and rather crude action on the part of the gurus to maintain the gravy train. From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from "TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet," coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, "This person is enlightened, and got that way as a result of practicing TM." 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