On 11/29/2014 2:53 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
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The Movement is a bullshit organization that defrauds people of their money and ruins their lives in many case. They wanna come after me, let 'em come on. Their master Mahesh Prasad the Varmit was a liar, cheat, con artist and fraud. Let 'em come on.
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/This information should be reported to the Interpol and to The Hague in the Netherlands! If true, this is just outrageous!

Are you saying that our esteemed colleagues, Barry, Curtis, Edg and Salya, sold us snake oil for money and were liars, cheats, con artists and frauds and that they ruined lives? Or, are you saying they were as dumb as you were?

Why can't you just admit that you failed to be able to sit still for twenty minutes? You don't have to throw your friends under the bus just because you sucked as a part-time dish-washer at a school up in Iowa!/ /Go figure./
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As to Barry, his point has ALREADY been proven in the persons of people like Jerry Jarvis who were around Mahesh the Varmit enough to know of his enormities and deny them all. How could people like Mark Landau, Billy Clayton, Connie Larson, Rob McCutchan and others see that Marshy was lying about being a life long celibate and others like Jarvis adamantly and utterly deny any of it ever happened?

People on this FFL forum have stated things like "Well, even if he did have sex, that just makes him more human in my eyes." rather than using their minds and common sense and say "That little liar! Wonder what else he lied about?"

Barry is right - a true believer will find any number of ways to wiggle out of looking straight at the facts about cherished beliefs and the people they look up to.

I like Rick for a number of reasons but even Rick has said things like Marshy's words, what he professed and what he actually did were different and Rick calls things like that a paradox.

The difference between what Marshy said and what he did is not a paradox in any way shape or form, it is a contradiction, and an assault on decent human values. Marshy lied, he committed fraud on a grand scale and what is worse, he damaged a lot of lives in the process, with apparently no remorse whatsoever.

Marshy's teaching including his interpretation of the experience of meditation was based on his definition of enlightenment. He gave that definition in terms the people with a Judeo-Christian background could understand then he turned around and violated his teaching. This is not spiritual rocket science, it is spirituality 101 - calling what Marshy did on all levels a paradox is sidestepping the responsibility to deal with the truth.

The fact that some people like TM and feel they got something out of it and something out of their connection to Marshy no more negates or makes his other behaviors a paradox than if you are married to someone you love and they cheat on you. They may be lovable but they also violated their connection to you and their agreements with you.

If you are in business with someone you love and respect and they take off with the company funds, its not a paradox, they committed a crime against you and everyone connected to the company - calling it a paradox is ignoring the truth.

So let the lying jackasses who run the Movement come after me for saying these things - we'll see how they hold up in court, I would love nothing better than to have Hagelin and Morriss squirming in the court in front of a judge and jury.

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*From:* "[email protected] [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:56 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies...



Dude, you are acting exactly like danfriedman2002 here.

You make a stupid, dumbshit statement on a forum which you
are well aware, that it has abnormal members.  Your
statement also indirectly suggested that they would condone
or overlook such a perversion.

You case is a little shaky. What will you do if TMO slaps a
lawsuit on you for libeling MMY and the believers?


--- <turquoiseb@...> wrote :

*Nablus, I suggest that you drop this, because YOUR name, email address, and posting history here on the Fairfield Life group are now in the possession of the Dutch police. I tried to warn you earlier that this country takes a very hard line with people who attempt to harm others' reputations through malicious slander and cyberstalking, but obviously you weren't listening. You should listen now, because if you persist I will have no choice but to file formal criminal charges against you.


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*From:* nablusoss1008 <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:22 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...

Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the "butt-fucking-babies" member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is "looking after" taken in for a medical examination perhaps.






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