---But there's no rule written in stone that Enlightenened people may not talk about anything. HWL Poonja talked about it quite a bit, including his experiences with Ramana Maharshi. He also has some interesting comments on Maharishi. His excellent bio can be read in the form of 3 volumes by David Godman.
In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 14, 2005, at 8:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: > > > > > To me, the latter is far more effective and inviting. And it doesn't > > have heavy-handedness of cultish procliamations "this is the way it > > is, period. This interprestation of reality is the only valid one. > > period. And it is known by means way beyond you. So just take it > > without questioning." > > One of the reasons an enlightened being will typically not talk about > enlightenment or even their own enlightenment is because this is, > except for some generalities, of little help in awakening the true > state of enlightenment in others. In other words, it's a very > inefficient way to introduce that state (either temporarily or > permanently) in students. > > It's interesting the culture that has developed in the west from the > satsangs of Ramana, Nisargadatta and Papaji. It's nothing like the > sadhanas that lead them to the non-dual state in the first place. > Ramana was a devotee of Kali who had numerous non-dual sadhanas. But > he did not teach that to his student (that I am aware of). And > Nisargadatta had a Nath guru who undoubtedly taught him some great > teaching which lead to his ripening and liberation. But he also would > not even talk of these teachings in any detail. They gave no methods > for the masses that flocked to them like the ones they themselves > used. But laughingly, those who emulate their examples merely parody > there darshans as if that will do it. It would be laughable if it > wasn't so sad. Even Papaji said none of his students received his > final teaching--the final stroke. They were just leeches. But those > who tasted--glimpsed--the View of non-duality abruptly claimed it as > their own. And then they declared satsangs of their own. And they > declared themselves enlightened on their own...even after people like > Papaji told them, no, sorry. > > It's like the old saying 'those who know, don't say; those who say, > don't know.' > > Worth remembering. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Need Help? Get Help! Tools and Strategies for Healthy Drug-Free Living</a>. http://us.click.yahoo.com/wI.OUB/dbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
