--- In [email protected],
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > 
> Tom T responds:
> This is the value of Brahman. Only Brahman can hold those extreme
> values inside one human mind and live with that paradox. If you have
> any doubt left about the nature of Brahman see above and ponder on
> that for a while. This is the exposition and playing out of the
> Jaimini sutras. On the hand is the realtive loony toon character and
> on the other hand is the blazing brillance of pure Shiva, go try and
> figure it out and you can't. That is the definition of Brahman. 
> I once heard a 23 year old, FF born and raised, describe her
> enlightenment as "delightful confusion". Delightful because it was and
> confusion because the mind was never going to figure it out. Not now
> Not ever. Tom T


Perhaps you can take insight from Dr. Pete, below. You can speak for
yourself and your experience, but not really for others. 


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All valid observations and insights that you need to
temper your own experience with, not deconstruct the
validity of another's experience. You can only talk
about what you experience, not another. <snip>
Amen. 
Dr. PS
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Perhaps Tom meant to say,

This is the value of Brahman for me. Only what I call Brahman can hold
those extreme values inside my mind and live with that paradox. If you
have  any doubt left about what I experience as the nature of Brahman,
see above and ponder on that for a while and see if you get the same
insight that I do. For me, this is an experience of the exposition and
playing out of the  Jaimini sutras. I percieve, and hey it may be my
ownlimitations, but on one hand is the realtive loony toon character
and on the other hand is the blazing brillance of pure Shiva. When I
go try and figure it out, it am profoundly confused -- in a good way.
I just for the life of me can't figure it out. Maybe you can, at least
its worth a try. But that profound confusion, that is the definition
of Brahman for me.  I once heard a 23 year old, FF born and raised,
describe her enlightenment as "delightful confusion". Delightful
because it was and confusion because it appeared to my mind that her
mind was never going to figure it out. Not now, Not ever am I ever
going to figure it out.






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